And speaking of metrics... don't miss this!

On The ART of Online Course Creation,

and I talked about gamefication and how to do it right.

In episode #61, Beyond Badges and Leaderboards: Better Gamification for Online Courses, we dove into what works and what doesn't work and how different people respond to different types of incentivization.

Mary is a learning engineer and co-founder of The Lavender Dragon Team. She turns complex ideas into human-centered learning experiences using storytelling, game-based design, and thoughtful applications of AI. Mary focuses on building learning that actually changes behavior not just checks a completion box. Her work sits at the intersection of learning science, creativity, and practical AI integration for modern educators and creators.

I was honoured to have Mary on the show, and I hope you'll take some time to listen to the episode. It is definitely food for thought, and will give you practical tips and insights for your own courses and communities.

Listen here!

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