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new Google ads client, deleted all data, running blind
as the title suggests, this client had deleted their Google ads campaigns, and i'm trying my best to make due with the data we have. Only thing i could find is their previous billing history: Dec 10 - Dec 31 2025 = 8974 clicks for $207 Jan 1 - Jan 31 2026 = 56471 clicks and 301268 impressions for $381 Would you guys say it's a waste of money to start everything anew with "maximize clicks", or am i better off just rolling with "maximize conversions" right off the bat? Sounds good to me, considering they have spent $581 clicks (with apparently no conversions too - probably didn't have tracking set up - HAS to have gotten some conversions - surely...). EDIT: found this data: "Get directions": 18 total "Clicks to call": 3 total "Calls from ads": 1 total "Submit lead form": 7 total Appreciate any help!
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I have to point out a massive red flag before you decide on a bidding strategy. Between December and January, this account brought in over 65,000 clicks for about $588. That puts the average cost per click at less than a single penny. Unless this client is in an unimaginably cheap, low competition market, those numbers scream junk traffic. It looks exactly like what happens when Search campaigns are mistakenly opted into the Google Display Network or mobile app placements without any supervision. People accidentally tap ads in mobile games, which perfectly explains the massive click volume, the high impression rate, and the fact that you only got 29 very loose conversions out of 65,000 clicks. The traffic they were paying for was almost entirely garbage. Because of this, I highly recommend you do not roll with Maximize Conversions right off the bat. Maximize Conversions relies heavily on historical data to know what a "converting" user looks like. Even though the campaigns were deleted, the account level history is currently telling Google that a penny click mobile gamer or a bot is your ideal audience. If you hand the algorithm the wheel right now, it's going to struggle, stall out, or just optimize for more spam. You are much better off starting fresh to train the algorithm properly. I would start with Maximize Clicks, but you must set a Maximum CPC bid limit so Google doesn't blow your whole daily budget on three clicks. Alternatively, Manual CPC (if you have the time to manage it) is fantastic here to keep total control while you figure out what search terms actually work. When you build these new campaigns, make sure they are Search Network only. Keep the Display Network and Search Partners turned completely off. Double check your location settings (set to "Presence" rather than "Presence or Interest"), set up a strict negative keyword list, and focus on buying high intent traffic. Once you filter out the junk and get around 15 to 30 legitimate conversions within a 30 day window, the algorithm will finally have good data. That is when you flip the switch over to Maximize Conversions.
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@Uncle Jimmy Mitchell thanks Jimmy 🫡
Meta ads question
Thoughts on this method? I’m currently building my service delivery, and on my research someone suggested when you sign a client to launch insta form ads asap, whilst you build the main funnel. Then using feedback from insta forms to build the main funnel, Vsl’s landing pages etc. Apparently it’s good for testing. Has anyone tried this or if not what are your thoughts on it?
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This is a good strategy, but be careful about lead quality. In app lead forms on Instagram are notorious for generating lower intent leads because the platforms autofill the users contact information. Because these people have not sat through a warming VSL or read a long landing page, your client will likely have to sift through more unqualified people, and their sales team will have to work harder to close them. To make this method work, you must add at least one or two custom, mandatory short answer questions to the Instagram form. This creates necessary friction and prevents accidental or lazy opt ins. You also need to manage your clients expectations upfront by letting them know these initial leads are for testing the waters and will require a more aggressive sales followup until the heavy lifting funnel is finished.
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@Taj Dawood yeah man same thing
Need Advice On My Offer And SOP's
Hello everyone, I’ve just signed my first client for my SMMA. He’s a family friend who runs a food catering business (weddings, birthdays, private events, etc.), and I’m planning to focus specifically on the food catering niche. My goal is to build a repeatable offer and SOP system that can work for all catering clients so it’s easier to scale later. My question for those of you who already have clients is: What SOP structure has worked best for you when generating leads or appointments for service businesses? Some specific things I’m trying to figure out: • Do I use Facebook lead forms or send people directly to WhatsApp (for my niche specifically)? • Do I call the leads, or does the client handle the calls? • Do I schedule the appointments myself or let the client do it? • Do I guarantee leads, appointments, or booked jobs (paying clients)? • Do I provide the sales script to the client? • Do I set up systems like Zapier/CRM for tracking leads? The reason I’m asking is because these decisions affect: • How much work is on my side • What I can realistically guarantee (leads vs appointments vs clients) • How much I can charge my clients (I can charge the least for guaranteed leads and the most for guaranteed new clients, leads is easiest to achieve, clients is hardest to achieve) For example, if I personally call leads after they fill out a form, I could guarantee way more appointments, but that would take much more time. If I only provide leads, it’s less work for me, but the client’s sales ability affects results. In summary, I’m trying to figure out whether I should offer guaranteed leads, guaranteed appointments, or guaranteed new clients, and depending on each one, what SOP’s are necessary to fulfil the offer? For those of you already running campaigns: What system has been the most scalable and reliable for you? Appreciate any advice, I want to build this the right way from the start and avoid beginner mistakes. Thanks everyone.
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When deciding what to guarantee, you need to protect yourself from variables you cannot control. You should absolutely not guarantee booked jobs or paying clients. Catering deals depend heavily on the client's food quality, menu pricing, availability, and personal sales skills. If their menu is overpriced or they are terrible on the phone, you will fail to hit your guarantee through no fault of your marketing. As a beginner, the safest and most scalable route is to guarantee a specific number of qualified leads. Once you have a few months of data and know the exact conversion rates, you can safely upgrade your offer to guarantee qualified consultation appointments. For the catering niche specifically, capturing data is crucial because not all leads are equal. Sending traffic straight to WhatsApp can create a chaotic inbox full of people asking broad questions. Instead, use Facebook lead forms. You can ask qualifying questions like the event date, estimated guest count, and type of event. This filters out tire kickers and gives your client the context they need to close. Once the form is submitted, that is where your automation steps in. You absolutely need to set up basic CRM and use Zapier to connect the pieces. When a lead fills out the Facebook form, Zapier should automatically drop them into a pipeline, while simultaneously sending an automated SMS or WhatsApp message to the lead thanking them and providing a link to book a consultation call. Zapier should also instantly notify your client via email or text that a new lead has arrived. As for who calls the leads and schedules the appointments, you want to remove yourself from that bottleneck. You are building a marketing agency, not an outbound call center. Your system should automatically prompt the lead to book a call using a calendar link. If they do not book automatically, your client should be the one calling them. Catering is a consultative sale that requires specific knowledge about menus, dietary restrictions, and venue logistics that you simply do not possess.
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@Joshua C no problem
Niche Oversaturated planning to switch to adjacent niches, need advice
Hi all, I recently watched @Uncle Jimmy Mitchell video on niche, and his advice on choosing multiple adjacent niches really stuck with me. Planning to do so as well Recently my outreach numbers have been struggling due to my niche being VERY OVERSATURATED and being ABSOULTELY BURNT BY AGENCYS, like no joke, most of them hate agencies as most of them have been ripped off my niche is roofers btw How should i go about finding adjacacent and less saturated niches where they actually hear out what you have to say. My offer is the usual mix of ads and automations for appoinments, which is quite decent due to SaaS background so not worried about service delivery, just need to improve cold outreach conversions with a niche which is not burnt and targetted by everyone.
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Try the home exterior ecosystem. Since your current niche is roofers, the easiest pivot is to look at the other trades that work on the same houses but aren't targeted by most lead gen agencies. You want niches with a high average order value so your ads make sense, but with lower agency competition. Some highly profitable adjacent niches include siding installers who have a similar average order value to roofing but way less competition. Gutter installation and guards are lower ticket but have massive volume. Masonry and hardscaping, like retaining walls and patios, have huge ticket sizes and almost always need better lead tracking. Deck builders are high margin and rely heavily on visual portfolios. Tree removal services have high urgency and usually need your automation backend. Foundation repair is extremely high ticket, and garage epoxy flooring is exploding in popularity and great for visual ads. Next, you need a quick validation test. Before you start scraping leads for a new niche, ensure your offer will actually crush it. Make sure the average order value is high enough, ideally 3k dollars or more per job, so they can afford your fees. Ensure they have an obvious pain point, like being terrible at following up with leads. Also, look for a fragmented market with lots of local, independent business owners rather than corporate monopolies. Third, change your outreach angle using your SaaS advantage. Since these adjacent niches still get some spam, you need to instantly separate yourself from the standard ad agency crowd. Drop the word agency and position yourself as a growth consultant or a systems integrator. Sell the automated system, not the ads. Tell them that you install an automated ecosystem that captures demand and books prequalified appointments directly onto their calendar, rather than just handing them a list of leads they have to chase down. Finally, to test the waters, pick two adjacent niches from the examples above. Scrape 100-200 leads for each and run a highly personalized, low friction test. Keep the script short and offer to show them exactly how your automation handles their followup problem.
A Thank U Msg
Hey Jimmy ,I know you might not read this but I just wanted to say to you that I am so grateful and thankful to you that you created this community of valuable people who continuously aspire to achieve more , and the work you are doing mate to improve our community and this whole online service based business community is so helpful mate , And I think u are really underappreciated for the work you are doing , like people would charge money for this active community ,and you gave it to us for free , not only the community but you replying on every comment and post that asks questions to you and is troubled , I once again want to thank u , and I know this is not a significant thanks to you for the work you put and do , but I am so insignificant too lol , nvm , keep this work up , and I just wanted to say I love u 💗💗💗💗( no homo ) and the work you do and the value you put in this community . So grateful to have you as my mentor , would put your picture on my self transendece workbook🤠. 💗💗
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