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Italy's New Femicide Law: Discrimination Against Men?
Italy recently introduced femicide (murder of women) as a distinct crime. Most news outlets say that the law makes murdering a woman punishable by life in prison if the victim's female gender was the murderer's motive. The crime of femicide will be punished more harshly than murder in general. Most news outlets say what happens when the victim is a woman. But I haven't seen an article that specifically adresses whether the law protects men and trans people as well. For example, murdering a man due to hatred of men, or murdering a trans person due to hatred of trans people, etc. People online talk about the law assuming it only protects women, so I assume that's what the law says. But I haven't found a definite source that confirms this. If it is true, then the law is exremely illiberal and discriminatory. Violence against woman is exremely serious, but on legal level, we should all have equal protection. If femicide is recognized as a distinct crime, then so should androcide (murder of men) and transicide (murder of trans people). Does anyone know more than me about this law? Source: https://apnews.com/article/italy-femicide-law-crime-gender-violence-women-99e4be4aaba9f6b940d834ed6c7cb4d0
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I spent in Italy most of my life. The media skewed the opinions of the country, creating the impression that it is not safe for women. It is discusting to see in real life big fields of tents of journalists, as they act like private investigators, creating like a live tv series with the latest news that goes on for weeks on the shoulder of a murder. Emotions over stats. A national scandal.
How can The West fix Illegal Immigration and Assimilation issues.
I don't understand why European authorities have difficulty effectively addressing this issue. They could permit the use of lethal force if necessary to halt illegal immigration or prioritize mass arrests and deportations although these steps may be controversial. In recent years, many European countries have faced increasing pressure from public opinion regarding immigration, leading to a contentious debate about how to manage these flows. Some argue that allowing for stricter measures could deter illegal entry, while others advocate for more humane approaches. Alternatively, they might consider employing illegal migrants as cheap labor in regulated sectors where they can be monitored. This approach mirrors practices in Gulf states, where cheap laborers are kept separate from the main population in a highly controlled environment. Such a system allows these nations to meet labor demands without the complexities of integration. In Europe, acknowledging that human rights do not apply uniformly is controversial but brings to light the differing priorities of nations when it comes to immigration policies. Some argue that the rights of citizens should take precedence over those of illegal migrants, especially in contexts where public safety and social cohesion are perceived to be at risk. A more effective approach but extremely controversial for European states would be to distinguish between cheap laborers and unassimilated immigrants, separating them from the core population. This could involve placing these individuals in specific sectors, perhaps in industries that rely heavily on labor but are closely monitored, without granting the possibility of citizenship, as those in these categories may be less likely to assimilate. The focus should instead be on integrating educated and affluent immigrants, who are generally more likely to adapt to and embrace the culture of their new country. For instance, an immigrant engaged in academic or business pursuits often has the skills and background that align well with Western values and societal norms, making it easier for them to assimilate. This contrasts sharply with individuals performing manual labor, who may face barriers to integration due to language, education, or cultural differences.
@Solar Flare I disagree, population will eventually self correct naturally. I believe this is the best out of a bad situation, as people are not having on their own conviction kids. I welcome any dissenting opinion. It is going to be hard the transition, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel, as more resources will be distributed to fewer people (if you do not correct with immigration). That is what happens after the plague, the plague affected eveyone at the same time, and after that the economy booms. Urban populations naturally collapse, like a forest too dense of trees. A random thunder you can not predict will burn down most of the forest. Stopping all the fires when they are small does not work, as you just increase the total nuber of trees, and thus the chance for the next random thunder to cause an unstoppable fire. Fire fighters actively burn parts of the forest in a controlled way to prevent that catastrophic fire. There are cycles in history where the population moves from rural to urban and viceversa. Rural populations are almost stagnant, create strong cultures rooted to the land, and create many people. Urban populations increase efficiency, innovations, but they are more diverse and with less strong bonds. I believe society today is too hard and complicated. When women go through the complete education system and after that achieve financial independence, it is almost too late the have kids as they have a biological clock. Plus in many places is just too expensive to live and afford a house on your own, incurring in a debt of 30 years plus for a normal house. The population collapse is a correction to that, and it is done smoothly, when people decide not to have kids or fewer kids. So in short the population will collapse anyway, and the way it is happening is the best way to go about it.
@Solar Flare robots replaced people well before AI. It will happen what has always happened, jobs will be created and destroyed and the economy will adapt to the new change. AI will not replace complicated jobs. If I can describe what you do with a prompt, than you are not doing something meaninful. Lets take for example a picture as your project. You could easily draw your initial draft with AI. But as you introduce details the cost of explaining what you want becomes harder and harder, to the point that it is easier to work on your picture with non AI tools. When you have a complex project, and I have been involved in many, you need to work thinking about details and overall picture at the same time. A complex project takes years to mature, it is like exploring. You have a starting point with a vision, but as you move the goal shifts, and you cannot forcast everything years ahead. You need wisdom to think about a good way to build an architecture, as changes need to be easy to implement, and a change should not kick in many other changes all the time, like falling domino pieces. AI lacks that wisdom, it is good only to figure out fast simple details. Plus their context is way more limited than human brains, I mean that physically. AI like the phones will create many sheeps, and very few hyper productive people, exactly as phones. I always hear that we carry in our pocket more computation power than the Apollo rocket that landed on the moon. The problem is that you can not do much work on your phone, so that computation power is only used to scroll Instagram and serve people the best advertisement. The same I believe will be true with AI, most will stop thinking, and when it is connected to payment systems, your AI agent will order conveniently Domino pizza at your door step without the need to push buttons, while harvesting data that will be used to profile people. While @Armin Navabi will use it to create wonderful slides to explain clearly with better arguments how to defend Classical Liberal values.
God-Given Inaliable Rights
The United Nations is one of the organizations behind many nefarious agendas, including the sexualization of our children through our schools & the destruction of the Western countries through mass unchecked immigration.
God-Given Inaliable Rights
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@John Cantillon do you have stats for that claim? The only country I know that publishes how much the state spends and earns from immigrants divided in category is Danimark. https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2024/02/fiscal-impact-of-immigrants-by-country-of-origin/ And they show what everybody expects, people from Middle Easter Pakistan, Turkey and Africa are mostly a drain (averages). Pensioners are a drain to the economy, and the solution is not those migrants. People in Europe do not come for work or study. They are family reunions and "others". https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/policies/migration-and-asylum/statistics-migration-europe_en So most of the legal immigrants do not come to work, to pay our pensions.
It's not Left verses Right
The attack on Western civilization is like an earthquake where political fault lines run through everything: families, friends, nations, hearts. For too long, the real problem; the dynamic that is breaking us apart, has evaded our consciousness. The Right blames the Left, and the Left attacks the Right. But the problem is not Left verses Right. Just as a therapist does not treat family or marital problems by pointing to one thing or person, we must do the same. If we are serious about making things better, we must act as a therapist and understand our dysfunction by studying the dynamic that has brought us to this point. And to do so, we must look within; at those on our own side of the political spectrum as well as those across from us. Traditional liberals and mainstream conservatives have long considered each other political enemies. And this is a problem. If the West is to survive and defeat the fringe ideologies that have grown in power on both sides of the spectrum, traditional liberals and mainstream conservatives must recognize and prioritize what ties them together and separates them from the fringe ideologies-- respectively, progressive ideology and the "woke right" that has now seeped into political discussion on mainstream platforms. Classical liberals and mainstream conservatives are bound together though their belief that all people are created equal and that our most fundamental rights are given to us by a higher power -- not the state. This belief, this truth; the underlying foundation of our civilization, makes traditional liberals and conservatives vastly different than their radical counterparts. Is there potentially a silver lining behind New York City's election of communist Mamdani and the rise of Nick Fuentes on the right? Can conservatives and liberals awaken to the pathology of those on their own side of the spectrum and reject radical ideology by forming an unlikely alliance and prioritizing what is most important and fundamental to our civilization?
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Left and Right mean different things to different people. I think progressives and conservatives is about speed of adoption, the terms do not tell anything about the content (direction). The real ideological split is people that believe in borders and people that do not. The other real ideological split is between people that see people with superficial identities (woke left and right, with declared victims and oppressors) and people that do not. I do not find it useful to identify as "Left" and "Right", since it is a spectrum, more government control (and you can not get rid of that fully) or less. Everybody should support both Left and Right policies, because you should not be responsible for everything (defense, health, justice etc...), and you should be responsible for something.
Muslim invasion to Europe
How come european leaders allow the muslim invasion to Europe?
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Agency of borders delegated to EU, with a ethos of open borders open markets. A PTSD from WW2 where nationalism is viewed as leading straight to Hitler and Mussolini. Plus soft power with massive influences. UN, wicked popes, biased media, Red Cross, Amnesty International, etc...
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@Aradhna Krishna and CBDC Central Bank Digital Currency. Programmable money to implement the universal basic income, carbon credits, after of course the great reset, to zero out the debit of nation states. Of course you will own nothing and be happy.
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