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Small Bay Industrial Basecamp

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You have to pick one…
A question for those far more financially savvy than me: Suppose you could pick one park between two. Each park has a 9% yield on cost. The first park has contractor tenants using an efficient build design for your buildings. Rent is $12-$14 per square foot. The second park has retail tenants ranging from youth sports coaching to Internet, startup and interior decorating with a showroom. Building ranges from showroom to luxury level finish. Rent ranges from $16-$20 a square foot. Which park would you choose, ceteris paribus?
2 likes • Jul 2
Looking at the price per square foot is important. Your exit could be very difficult if your buying at $130/SF vs. $200/SF. In 5 years or more you may be over replacement costs on the second property, so your tenants may choose a new building or the new buyer may not want to pay $250/SF for a building.
Parking Ratio - Seeking Input
I'm currently working through a feasibility study on approx 3.5 acres (narrow, rectangular lot). It seems like it could support 36-40 KSF in 3-4 10,000-12,000 SF buildings. I've been evaluating the market and tenant base which could span from contractor to "higher end tenants". I've talked SBF with other developers and parking ratio seems to be one of the priority variables to address in ground up....direct impact on potential tenants and lease rates. I'm looking for input on these ratios based on market tested experience. Currently, I'm underwriting 2.5-2.75 spaces per 1000 SF. Inviting input and challenges. Thanks in advance to everyone!!
3 likes • Jul 2
The zoning and the use will usually set a ratio depending on the use (office, industrial etc.). It really depends on how much office there is and your tenant mix. anywhere from 2-3/1000 is what I see. Sometimes up to 4 if it was heavy office and includes a gym or other type quasi retail use.
Market shift
Cap Rates are rising in industrial real estate, and I think there will be a lag on sellers adjusting their value. What do you do in the meantime? - Change your underwriting to make deals work - Maintain discipline even if it impacts deal velocity - Sit on the sidelines and wait for the pricing shift - Get aggressive on terms like seller notes to reduce equity and increase the IRR Love to hear from everyone.
0 likes • Jun 11
Are you talking specifically about rising cap rates on small bay industrial or overall? I think the market has shifted a little with IOS now becoming a more defined asset class that has garnered more institutional capital. I am not seeing a rise in cap rates as much as I am seeing sellers be pickier in what they are looking for. One thing I have seen is a large rise in rents and at times they are more than the market will bear. That will cause investors to go into a deal with a higher cap rate because they don't believe they can push rents any further or the rents may go down on a renewal or re-lease. Ways to combat this, be realistic about market rents. Investors are more prudent than they used to be. Set expectations with your clients accordingly. In a sale leaseback situation make sure you are arriving at a defendable rent number when preparing to take it to market. Possibly get the opinion of your buyers before going to market.
Deal Analysis: 3775 Powers Court Chattanooga, TN
https://www.crexi.com/properties/2513946/tennessee-powers-court-flex-industrial-condos-early-2027 I'm curious to get thoughts on this development. The asking price PSF is high but my client, the developer, is not being greedy from a profit perspective. The land isn't cheap, odd shape, requires a retaining wall, some built up dirt, and it has some fatty clays. We're thinking we may have to let this one go and shop for flatter land that is cheaper to develop more SF on. Curious to get thoughts/suggestions.
0 likes • Jun 1
It looks like a metal building, I would expect it to be lower PSF especially for the larger units. I will say smaller buildings are more expensive to build PSF but I would typically expect higher end construction at almost $300/SF. If there is significant parking for a small amount of outdoor storage that might make a difference. Curious if the owner mentioned the cost of the land or at least the % of development costs. One way to get a higher return for a developer is to buy the land at $100K and push it into the development at $750K. Then you can lower your Developer fee but make as much or more.
0 likes • Jun 3
If you pull out the land the cost to build the building (including any development fees) is $240/SF. That still seems high especially for something that isn't perfect. Smaller developments are tough to pencil but on this one it seems like if they sells one small unit he can buy the land and put that in as equity into the deal and finance the rest. So I understand why they are trying to make it work.
Has anyone purchased centrally within a large city?
Hello all! New member here. My name is Paul and my partner is Harris. We are located in Charleston, South Carolina. We are looking to purchase a < 10k sqft light industrial building centrally located in North Charleston or West Ashley, South Carolina. However, everything we're seeing is $300-$400+ / sqft, and often for outdated/dilapidated conditions. Is it foolish to purchase within city limits like this instead of outside city limits (in the path of progress)? Has anyone actually done this (purchasing near the center of a major metro)?
2 likes • Jun 1
I find the returns are just too low to make it work at that level. If you are buying and renovating and your all in is $400/SF and rents are $18/SF you are about a 4.5% cash on cash return. If you found a way to do it at $300/SF with renovations you would be at a 6% Cash on Cash. So any debt would be negative leverage (debt more than returns). If you thought you could rent it until you could turn it into something else with higher rents (retail etc.) then it could make sense.
2 likes • Jun 3
I agree @Will Skillman it's tough to cross over asset classes. When I was working on Class A office we paid over $600/SF for a 800K SF trophy tower in downtown Atlanta but the returns were there and the tenants were high credit. Even if the tenants moved out it would still be top of the market space. It's tough to cross over asset classes. One think that's important to make sure is that you don't buy something with in place rents that are substantially over market because while you may get that going in 7 cap could drop substantially (along with the value) if you renew or release that space.
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