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Weekend Wins! Share Yours!
What’s something you’ve been working on that you’re excited about or proud of? Share a clip with us! Raw and unedited, straight from your phone works great—even if you don't see this until after the weekend. I'm really excited about what recording the attached clips means for me. More on that in a bit. I got a little too into it and loud by the end of the clip, which made the distortion harsher than I intended, but still totally comfortable. The song is the second verse of the song "The Weight" that I wrote a while back. It's taken over a year of work to change my voice from The Silent Still’s style into the newer “Hard Rock with a Southern Gothic soul” style. I only recently finally fully relaxed into the new voice. I feels a bit nostalgic too, like I’m going back to a lot of the gospel roots I started in 35 years ago, but with FAR more skill than back then. 150+ songs in, I’m excited about bringing the top songs of this bunch to fruition later this year. ***** As the main vocal coach here, I want to note something for any of you still struggling to really nail a new vocal technique or sound. The average timeline to go from learning a completely new technique, sound, or vocal shape, to being able to naturally relax into it seems to be: 1. Two to six weeks to build a general understanding and feel for it. 2. Two to three months from start to be able to do it on purpose, but still having to think about it. 3. Eighteen months from start to do it without thinking much about it. Some people are more intuitive about certain aspect of the voice and speed up that process greatly. Some haven't built the foundations they need in order to have something solid to build on top of, and end up taking years to get where they want to be. Sometimes it can seem like each new thing requires going back to the foundations and rebuilding one piece at a time into the new thing. But on average, each new thing you add follows the above timeline. That's not to say you can't train multiple things at once.
Weekend Wins! Share Yours!
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In the spirit of sharing something that's totally unfinished, I'll post just this one line I recorded yesterday. I just went through a large move, so I haven't really been able to sing in any serious way for about a month. When I finally started again, I find I'm pretty rusty, but I also feel like I was able to come to what I was working on from a new perspective. And things are suddenly starting to fall into place that I was struggling with before. I feel like I have the understanding and it's just a matter of putting in the reps to get back on track. In particular, I'm really trying to relax into adding subtle grit to effortless singing and I think this line exemplifies that
Acoustic microphone shield
I'm curious about that foam shield you have around your microphone in the background of your videos, @Draven Grey. What would you say that does for you? Do you have any recommendations on which to buy? I've thought about getting one a lot before and even tried making one myself at one point.
1 like • Apr 23
@Draven Grey Hmm-hmm. I may end up with one of these myself soon.
**𝗡𝗢𝗧𝗘: 𝗠𝗨𝗦𝗜𝗖 𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗣𝗢𝗦𝗧𝗦**
I want to remind everyone that Music Mondays is a great time to share your own stuff or stuff you find really cool. Just sharing and entertainment without having to share lessons learned, analysis, or the like. ***𝗙𝗲𝗲𝗹 𝗳𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗽𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗼𝘄𝗻 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝗶𝗰, 𝗼𝗿 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗷𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝗻𝘁 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗲*** I'm not one to share music just for the sake of filling up Music Mondays, so I haven't posted a lot on Music Monday for a while. This is mostly because what I'm personally working on is still in production—from my own music, to a new big project that's still forming, and a few people that I'm either producing or writing with. To be honest, I'm in the middle of an unexpected divorce that took over my time for while, so I haven't posted nearly as much as I've wanted to in general. While I'll still be busy for a couple of months, I'm finally able to start planning more time creating and being more active here.
**𝗡𝗢𝗧𝗘: 𝗠𝗨𝗦𝗜𝗖 𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗗𝗔𝗬 𝗣𝗢𝗦𝗧𝗦**
1 like • Mar 30
I'll post something just for the sake of posting something. Here's a little song that I threw together in a month or so for a compilation that was going out. The theme was the rebirth of the sun or solar and lunar cycles or whatnot. https://soundcloud.com/to_the_sun/lux-aeterna https://selenemusick.bandcamp.com/album/amaterasu-2
Every other line when recording
I tried what you had mentioned before, @Draven Grey, in just recording every other line during a vocal take. The difference is night and day. It's so much easier to get good takes! Thanks for the tip.
Exemplars Of Distortion: MAPHRA
It seems to me that it would be helpful everyone in this community to learn to distinguish between compressed and. decompressed grit and how different acoustic placements sound when different singers use them. Lots of people do fry screams, but many of them end up sounding very different. A singer that has recently gained quite a lot of attention among the "first time reactors" is an artist named MAPHRA singing a cover of a song by BTH titled "Doomed.": Between 1:11 and 1:32 into this video of MAPHRA gets a unique sounding grit. I've seen various vocal coaches claim they were giing to analyze her technique. Some came up with things that sounded somewhat close but didn't really sound right. Others, even one coach who claims to specialize in distortion attempted no analysis of her grit technique. I would guess that MAPHRA is using fry scream for her unique type of grit but I would love to know. Where does her technique for grit fall on the compressed to decompressed spectrum? Is there a lot of constriction (hard hypid pull) or only a ight amount of constriction (light hyoid pull)? Where is her acoustic placement? I think the better we get at being able to identify what techniques singers are using and how those techniques vary in sound. depending on which vocalists are using them, the better we'll get at deciding how to create the sound that we're going for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6L-GUOAhGo
1 like • Mar 13
@Draven Grey My computer also started doing that seemingly whenever I restart it, and I couldn't figure out why. So I just made an AI write a Python script for me that resets it to 100% volume at startup every time. I could send it to you if you want. Of course, getting Python scripts from random people on the internet is a bit dubious if you don't know Python well enough to read it over quick first, haha.
0 likes • Mar 14
@Draven Grey Crazy. Let me watch that again.
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