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Every other line when recording
I tried what you had mentioned before, @Draven Grey, in just recording every other line during a vocal take. The difference is night and day. It's so much easier to get good takes! Thanks for the tip.
Exemplars Of Distortion: MAPHRA
It seems to me that it would be helpful everyone in this community to learn to distinguish between compressed and. decompressed grit and how different acoustic placements sound when different singers use them. Lots of people do fry screams, but many of them end up sounding very different. A singer that has recently gained quite a lot of attention among the "first time reactors" is an artist named MAPHRA singing a cover of a song by BTH titled "Doomed.": Between 1:11 and 1:32 into this video of MAPHRA gets a unique sounding grit. I've seen various vocal coaches claim they were giing to analyze her technique. Some came up with things that sounded somewhat close but didn't really sound right. Others, even one coach who claims to specialize in distortion attempted no analysis of her grit technique. I would guess that MAPHRA is using fry scream for her unique type of grit but I would love to know. Where does her technique for grit fall on the compressed to decompressed spectrum? Is there a lot of constriction (hard hypid pull) or only a ight amount of constriction (light hyoid pull)? Where is her acoustic placement? I think the better we get at being able to identify what techniques singers are using and how those techniques vary in sound. depending on which vocalists are using them, the better we'll get at deciding how to create the sound that we're going for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6L-GUOAhGo
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@Draven Grey My computer also started doing that seemingly whenever I restart it, and I couldn't figure out why. So I just made an AI write a Python script for me that resets it to 100% volume at startup every time. I could send it to you if you want. Of course, getting Python scripts from random people on the internet is a bit dubious if you don't know Python well enough to read it over quick first, haha.
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@Draven Grey Crazy. Let me watch that again.
A study of Crawl Away by Tool
Over the past month or more I've been working on a study of sorts trying to get down the vocals for Crawl Away by Tool. It seemed like a good piece because there are long, drawn-out notes with heavier grit. I think I've gotten it to a place I'm satisfied with, although I probably am actually using more distortion than he does in the song. But I figured, hey, it is the skill I'm trying to learn so I may as well step it up a notch. This recording is after countless takes to get the very best ones, granted I was learning the more aggressive stuff more or less from scratch over that time. This is the vocals only, so I uploaded it to SoundCloud so you can see the waveform and skip over the silent parts. It was recorded through a compressor but otherwise it's completely dry. https://soundcloud.com/to_the_sun/crawl-away-a-cappella
1 like • Feb 23
@Draven Grey just to give an update on this: Within a couple days of trying the smoker's voice, I realized what it feels like to have the resonant anchor in a spot that's actually above the soft palate somewhere. Everything I had been doing before that I thought was in that region was actually much much more forward, in retrospect. Now that I know what it feels like to have vibration happening in that spot, that weird middle ground between nasally and the epiglottal stuff, everything seems to make a lot more sense. I feel like I understand how it's all supposed to work and it's just a matter of putting in all the practice to get it down. One thing I'm still not exactly sure about though is what you're referring to when you say "hyoid pull". Does that just mean the larynx moving up a little bit?
1 like • Feb 25
@Draven Grey okay, yes, I do feel the pull, if I put my finger right on that spot.
A new song
This net label recently put out a compilation with this song of mine on it. I thought I'd share it here even though it doesn't have any particularly aggressive vocals in it. I'll be releasing this song later on my own album, more officially. https://dittanyofcrete.bandcamp.com/track/there-stalks-a-daeva-this-azimuth
1 like • Feb 24
@Don Davis oh yes, there are certainly more refined ways of doing things. This is just quick and easy, that's all.
1 like • Feb 24
@Draven Grey I'll have to look into some of these automation tools. I'm all about removing some of the tediousness from the process. I know I did try out Vocalign before. I can't remember the exact reasons, but I ultimately just went back to manually warping vocals in Ableton. Maybe because it still required time cleaning up what the plugin did, or maybe just because of the risk of artifacts, which I am pretty averse to. Or maybe I was actually testing out some cheaper competitor? 🤔 I really can't remember. Might be worth looking at again.
What causes lightheadedness while singing with grit?
I was recently made aware of epiglottal vibrations crossing over into my grit, so I've been consciously avoiding that. But the strange thing is, as soon as I have, trying to keep a more pure resonance higher up in my head, I started to experience lightheadedness, which has never happened before. What causes lightheadedness exactly? Am I tensing my neck too much?
1 like • Feb 13
@Draven Grey yep, sounds exactly like what I need to work on. Thanks!
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