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10 contributions to Rock Singing Success
I Was Obsessed With Grit
For a long time the main thing on my mind when going into a practice session would be how to get better at creating grit or distortion. I was a distortion freak! I find it as fascinating as ever to be able to sing with grit and I've even gotten a little bit interested in screaming, but mostly it was about singing melodically with grit or even pitched screaming, which essentially is the most extreme end of the spectrum that goes from singing with light rasp all the way to using pitched screams. Recently I hit a plateau. It didn't seem like any more progress was possible unless I made some type of fundamental change. It occurred to me that the quality of your gritty singing is going to be dependent on the quality of the signal from the source - the true folds. I'm no expert in acoustics but it makes sense to me that if we're using the false folds and other supraglottal structures to saturate the clean signal with distortion, then the more robust the clean signal is, the better you're going to be able to saturate it with distortion. In essence, good quality clean vocals lead to good quality gritty vocals and low quality clean vocals lead to low quality gritty vocals.
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"In essence, good quality clean vocals lead to good quality gritty vocals and low quality clean vocals lead to low quality gritty vocals.". Wow man, this is such a great statement as it is and even better for me as I'm exploring some crazy distortion stuff right now. Really helpful!
Chest vs Head Voice, Larynx Getting Stuck, & Straw Sirens
A SUBMITTED QUESTION ***** I've been doing what you told me and realized something when switching between resonances. Whenever I go high/into head voice and I want to go back down to chest voice my larynx gets stuck, it's a really odd feeling. I was trying to go back down from head voice while using the straw when I felt everything jam up into place with air nowhere to go - it created a really pressurized chamber inside of my mouth combined with the puffy cheeks. I have been trying to cry but I suspect I've been doing it wrong. I feel tension in my throat when I'm crying so I guess that's not correct. Also, I'm still not able to utilize forward placement. The most I've been able to feel is vibrations in my nose. The straw warmup did clear my chest voice out but it's not helping me even while doing the sirens because of the larynx thing. ***** Great question! This is something a LOT of people struggle with at first, both with the straw AND the missed fundamentals of the singing voice that can smooth out the transition of chest and head voice as well as ghelp you with more effortless singing in geneal. STRAW VS NORMAL SINGING For the straw sirens, don't worry too much about your voice flipping. It's mostly about a stretch from as low as you can sing to as high as you can sing while staying SUPER LIGHT (light and sqeuaky on the top end). As you learn more about and implement better cry vocal mode, it will smooth out, but that's not the main point of the sirens. Most vocal flips, or getting stuck trying to "switch resonances," happen because the chest voice wasn't places well to begin with—where even chest voice is mixed, which I'll describe more below. Singing into the straw is where you want more emphasis on cry and twang. It actually takes a bit more effort than normal singing, meaning you have to give it both more twang and cry than normally required. Cry is the foundation. When normal singing, it's all about lift and sob; or rather top-down whimper ("Michael Jackson" voice or feminization of the voice) putting resonance up and out, behind the nose and eyes, and ALSO sob relaxing the larynx. Both of these together relax the larynx and give you a mix of head-voice and chest-voice resonance throughout your range—more chesty down low and more heady up high, like a giant cross-fade. Twang, edging acoustics, or pointing the voice behind the nose or eyes adjusts your sound color. Front to back is edging to curbing (bright to round). Up and down in that spot is the top-down whimper of cry.
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@Draven Grey Insane video sir, so fucking helpful! I got what you mean and I'll try adding those things in. Writing is getting a bit more challenging because talking about some things in depth is better done with video so I'll keep you updated on my progress as well as post videos more often and maybe write a paragraph or so. I will work on the vowel placement and forward placement.
Vocal "Chirps"
Very cool vocal performance by Sia in this song: https://youtu.be/t2NgsJrrAyM?si=jgioXLPW0FiGAl0C&t=242 Wondering if anyone has ideas about how she achieves those interesting vocal "chirps" when she sings "I'm alive..." around 4:00 into the song.
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@Draven Grey Sir there are some terms that are confusing/hard to understand. Is there any part of the classroom or anywhere where you go into details with these terms like glottal, glottis and just different anatomical terms?
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@Draven Grey I'll check that out as soon as I have the time, thank you for explaining!
The Three Necessary Ingredients For Distortion - Compression, Constriction and Acoustics
I like to sing melodically with grit, so I've never actively tried to learn false fold screams. Then I came across a guy who said that the more you work on your false fold screams, the false folds adapt in a way so that they can vibrate faster than the false folds of the typical non-vocalist!!! That's amazing. No wonder these guys who have been doing them for years and years get so much more distortion. It's not as if the flase fold scream is some ultra-technical technique. It's about as basic as they come and maybe that's why screaming is more in vogue than singing with grit: It's harder to sing with grit and manage both the clean note and the grit you place over the top than to just create distortion. I thought: If I learn to do false fold screams, my false folds could adapt in a way that they vibrate faster, which could give me better quality, more badass grit when I sing with grit. So, maybe there is some benefit in learning to scream even though I'm not a screamer. I have looked at numerous tutorials for false fold screams including Gabriel Bonhila's channel (he does a tremendous Alex Terrible type scream) and David Benites Extreme Vocal. Not one of them uses a hyoid pull. They don't even use a similar sounding term. It's amazing how much distortion they can generate without using any constriction. They create far more distortion than I 'd ever even need to! Not only do they not ever mention a hypoid pull, they don't even say to use constriction! I thought: "How can they be creating so much distortion without one of the three essential in gredients? My curiosity was piqued. I'm wondering if maybe hyoid pulls are only necessary for singing with grit but not for screaming. One said specifically: "Do not squeeze or narrow your vocal tract." I tried letting the tract remain open and I got a much better false fold scream than I did when I was trying to make my vocal tract narrower to get that "thumb over the water hose" on my airflow! I couldn't belive I'd never thought to try that.
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@Draven Grey Okay so you're saying that whatever I'm doing related to singing or screaming, I'm basically doing the hyoid pull?
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@Draven Grey okay I get it now. Makes sense.
Realization about singing higher
Hey guys, I realized something yesterday while I was trying to sing high-pitched songs from skid row and cinderella. I pushed a lot with my support leading to that almost Robert Jones's hyper compressed voice when I tried to sing high. Eventually, something suddenly flicked a switch in my mind and I decided to back off from the support and focus on technique/placement. The results I got were almost magical as I was struggling a lot for the past 6-7 months with singing. I was able to sing "I remember you" and "18 & life" properly without any problems. Can you guys please tell me how I can retain this discovery so I don't completely forget it and have to figure out from scratch again?
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@Draven Grey Wow that's a great video, thanks a lot sir. I get what you are trying to say actually and no, I'm not trying to sound exactly like Sebastian Bach but there's just this fascination, this drive, this sensation that I get while listening to him sing like how thin his voice becomes and how easily he's able to manipulate it. I also don't have that bright vocal tone that you were talking about and I guess that's just what I gotta live with. Speaking about distortion likewise, how do I get it? I mean I can do it but I cannot hold it for long, does it have something to do with the fact that I still haven't achieved that chesty mix and I still have to work with that light mix you talked about? Also, the day I had this realization, I didn't do any warmup. I just kept on trying to sing "I remember you" continuously until I felt that my voice became really free and I could "move it around" if that makes sense. How is it that I could achieve that without warmup but it doesn't work the same way when I do warm up? And when I warm up my voice doesn't really feel free 😕, it still feels stuck if it makes sense. Also when I tried the warmups with the straw, something inside my throat/mouth felt tight and uncomfortable, like something uncomfortably stuck under my tongue but I couldn't really do anything about it until it went away by itself. Could you please share some insight on that?
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@Draven Grey Alright, thank you for the reply. I will use the search bar more often and try to figure it out. I suppose I'm having tongue root stiffness maybe? I don't know how to fix it but I'll figure it out.
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