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How Are You Guys Handling the “Let's Wait Until Next Year” Objection?
Just received this response from a customer after sending over a detailed proposal. They appreciated everything, but now want to hold off until next year, possibly spring. Curious how everyone handles these situations. - What's your next move when you get a response like this? - How often are you following up without becoming a nuisance? - Are you calling, texting, emailing, or using a combination? - What follow-up intervals have worked best for you? - How are you keeping the relationship fresh and staying top of mind so they don't start shopping around again when they're ready? I'm trying to develop a consistent follow-up process for these types of opportunities so they don't just sit in the pipeline and eventually get forgotten. What's working for you guys? Would love to hear how you're handling this and what kind of follow-up schedule you're using.
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How Are You Guys Handling the “Let's Wait Until Next Year” Objection?
HELP...
Need the group's take on a change order fight before I reply to the customer. Customer has 40 years in construction. We found rot behind the siding on a wall replacement: studs, a header, two windows pulled and reset, older cedar removed and reused, a corner replaced. Change order went out at $3,496.98 (20 man-hours plus materials). He wants to pay about $1,750 and is telling us what our margin should be. Where we screwed up: 1. I didn't select top level only in JobTread, so the change order itemized out every line item, including labor and materials. He's picking it apart line by line. 2. We charged sheathing he told the crew to leave in place. That one's legit and we'll credit it. 3. We priced the CO after the work was done. During tear-off it kept getting worse the further we went, and we had to keep moving to get the wall closed up. So he never approved a number up front. Kenny met him on site today. The work part went fine. Then it turned into margin, overhead and "why do you have four trucks here." Kenny got stuck defending numbers that are office stuff, not field stuff. Customer thinks 50% margin means we add half to cost. It's a 100% markup. Kenny admitted he wasn't solid on it either, which is on me. I plan on teaching him so he can speak on it if he needs to in the field. He still wants us for spring work. Questions: 1. Where would you land on the number, and how do you give ground without teaching him that pushing works? 2. Do you ever explain margin to a customer, or is "this is our price" the whole answer? 3. Once a customer has seen line-item cost detail, do you re-issue at top level or would that look shady? 4. When the damage keeps growing during tear-off and you can't leave the wall open, how do you get the customer to sign off on pricing before you keep going? 5. How do you keep your field lead out of pricing conversations on site? What's the script? Full brief attached if you want the numbers. Also attached a few pictures and videos so you have an idea of the scope.
HELP...
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Thanks Dave, good questions. No contract for next year yet. We haven't sent the spring proposal, we're slammed right now and wanted to get this change order settled first. He's been clear he wants us back in the spring though. Would I work with him again? I'd consider it, but after this I'm questioning if the juice is worth the squeeze. What sticks with me is he's got 40 years in construction and he's telling us what our margin should be, but when Kenny asked him what he'd charge to pull and reset two windows, replace the rotted studs and header and take off old cedar and reuse it without breaking it, he said "I don't know anything about that, that's your job." So he knows enough to question our numbers but not enough to give one of his own. If I cave on this one I'm worried it sets the tone for the spring job...
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As of now, I fixed it myself. We working on building a system so it doesn't happen again, and not necessarily by me.
🧠 DELEGATION ARCHITECT
## Turn something on your plate into a clear handoff your team can actually own. ### HOW TO USE IT Copy this prompt into Claude. Give Claude one task, responsibility, project, or recurring piece of work that you believe should move off your plate. Claude will interview you and help build the delegation instead of simply writing instructions for you. ## COPY/PASTE INTO CLAUDE You are my Delegation Architect and Leadership Coach. Your job is to help me move work off my plate WITHOUT dumping confusion onto someone else. I want to delegate an OUTCOME, create clear ownership, provide appropriate authority, define guardrails, and establish accountability without micromanaging. IMPORTANT: Do not immediately write the delegation brief. Interview me first. Ask one question or one small group of closely related questions at a time. Wait for my response before continuing. Challenge me respectfully if: - I am delegating something that should simply be deleted. - I have not clearly defined the outcome. - I am keeping unnecessary approval authority. - I am trying to control exactly how the person performs every step. - I appear likely to take the work back. - The person may need development before full ownership. ## PHASE 1 — IDENTIFY THE WORK Ask me: What task, responsibility, project, decision, or recurring piece of work do I want to get off my plate? Then clarify: - How often does it occur? - How much time does it consume? - Why am I currently doing it? - Does it genuinely require me? - Who else could potentially own it? - What happens if it is done poorly? ## PHASE 2 — DEFINE THE OUTCOME Help me answer: What RESULT do I actually want? Do not allow me to stop at vague activity such as: "Handle customers." "Do marketing." "Take over scheduling." Help me define a measurable or observable outcome. Ask: "What would I need to see to confidently say this responsibility is being handled well?" ## PHASE 3 — CHOOSE THE OWNER Ask me who should own this.
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Do we put the whole post in there, or do we do one phase at a time? Just want to make sure I have the right format when trying to create this.
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