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Rock Singing Success

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Why You Should Cry
Cry is one of the most, if not the most essential vocal techniques. Here's how to build it.
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Know This When Learning to Scream
When you're learning to scream, you have to give yourself time to progress and learn. Here's why.
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๐Ÿ‘‹ Introduce yourself right here!
This is the introductions thread. Say hi, tell us where youโ€™re from and what youโ€™re all about! In your introduction, answer these 3 questions: โžก๏ธ What is your current music project and vision? โžก๏ธ What moment made you want to pursue being a rock singer? โžก๏ธ What's the main thing holding you back? We canโ€™t wait to meet you!
๐Ÿ‘‹ Introduce yourself right here!
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@Aalekh Saxena Welcome! Leaving your job for music is no easy feat! I like your attitude though. As you dive into the material here, feel free to ask when you need help or clarity. I'm happy to help!
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@Ethan Barbour Great story! I could never bring myself to pick up Alto Sax again after early high school, but have played piano since I was 6; and picked up guitar in college since it was the only instrument around. I understand that itch to play. I understand the allure of heavier music too. Don't beat yourself up too much about not liking your own voice. Not only is it a learning curve with a LOT of instruction out there that is either misinformation or too general of advice to give you a solid direction towards your goals in extreme singing; we are also our own worst critics. For example, I say this not as a brag, but as a solid example of being your own worst critic: I've been a professional singer/musician for 35 years, a recording/mixing/mastering engineer for 30, and a music career coach for many of that too. I've shared the stage with some huge names in the mid 90's, my band got signed to John Elefante's (Kansas) record label, and even went on after that band to share with many more nationals in heavier bands. For years, I joined forces in coaching bands with metal icon, Alex Staropoli of Rhapsody of Fire. I sold millions of a song for charity, wrote for TV and Film overseas, and much more. AND YET, I still don't feel like I've done anything, I still don't actually see any of it as a big deal since it was just the career I was in, and I still don't like my voice despite years of refining it and having the recording skills to make it sound even better too. You may never like your voice as much as others do, or see your performance and accomplishments the way others do. My best nights on stage, where I was very happy with my performance, were the nights no one said anything to me about it. What I thought were my worst nights were the ones that everybody was praising me for my passion and energy. Energy is what connects. That's not to say you don't want at least 85% skill proficiency too! Like speaking a language, 40% might get you by, but it's hard to connect. 85% is about the best the average native speaker ever gets to, and is good enoughโ€”then spend the rest of their life trying to get that final percentage. But even that 85% is like learning to write that language with your non-dominant hand, learning to sing is building fine-motor skills and muscle memory. Fine-motor skills take time, proper guides and the right training exercises towards your goals.
How to Build POWER in Your Voice
While there are a lot of ways to build vocal power, you won't get anywhere without strengthening your voice. Here's a great way to train that.
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๐ŸŽง Singing Live: How to NOT Lose Your Voice
Podcast Chats are where we keep the conversation going and dive deeper into the topics of our podcast episodes with you! โ–ถ๏ธ You can ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฐ๐—ต this episode below or find it directly on YouTube. ๐ŸŽง You can also ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป to this episode below, on our website, or by searching for 'Rock Singing Success' on your favorite podcast app! โžก๏ธ ๐—ช๐—ฒ ๐˜„๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—น๐—ฑ ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ ๐˜๐—ผ ๐—ธ๐—ป๐—ผ๐˜„ ๐˜†๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ด๐—ต๐˜๐˜€, ๐—พ๐˜‚๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜€ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐˜๐—ฎ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐˜„๐—ฎ๐˜†๐˜€ ๐—ถ๐—ป ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐˜€! What do you do when your singing voice gives out mid-set? Why does your vocal endurance fail, even when you feel ready? Whether you constantly lose your voice mid-performance or force yourself to keep singing no matter how exhausted your voice is, dive into what really causes vocal fatigue on stageโ€”and how to fix it. From mastering subtle resets to balancing distortion and clean vocals, join me as we uncover practical ways to build vocal resilience, sing with power, and deliver every performance with control and longevity. In this episode: - Learn why you lose your singing voice during a performanceโ€”and how to stop it from happening - Why endurance issues usually point to poor training, not just poor singing - The difference between shaping for belt and distortion vs. pushing for it - How yawning and sighing can reset your voice on stage - How crying prepares your voice for the hard parts - Why rehearsing your setlist like a real show preps your voice too - Discover how small vocal cues (like โ€œheyโ€ or a soulful โ€œmmmโ€) can lock in your voice placement - Learn to balance distortion and clean singing to avoid vocal fatigue - How to keep distortion powerful without pushing - Why over-articulation creates intensity better than pushing - Why consistency, awareness, and shapingโ€”not brute forceโ€”create lasting impact SUBSCRIBE ON YOUR FAVORITE PODCAST PLATFORM: YouTube Amazon Music/Audible
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After watching this episode, Rick asked: "I have a Friday, then Saturday 3 hours each gig coming up. Usually after one night of that duration the next day my voice can be a bit rough. Can you suggest any tips to prepare or recover?" ๐Œ๐ฒ ๐€๐ง๐ฌ๐ฐ๐ž๐ซ: **๐๐ž๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ๐ž ๐„๐š๐œ๐ก ๐†๐ข๐  (๐๐ซ๐ž๐ฉ)** 1. ๐–๐š๐ซ๐ฆ ๐”๐ฉ ๐’๐ฆ๐š๐ซ๐ญ, ๐๐จ๐ญ ๐‹๐จ๐ง๐  - - Use light Big Sirens (as low as you can to as high as you can and back) into a 4mm diameter straw for 5โ€“10 minutes (or โ€œpuffy cheeksโ€ if not a straw). Keep it light-throttle with that top-down whimper (cry/sob). - - Follow with Straw Singing octaves at medium to medium-light throttle up towards the top of your range, always keeping resonance lifted behind the nose and toward the eyes. - - End with light vocal stretches โ€” sirens or scales up to medium throttle โ€” so your mix is agile, not stiff. 2. ๐‚๐ก๐ž๐œ๐ค ๐‚๐ซ๐ฒ & ๐๐ฅ๐š๐œ๐ž๐ฆ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐„๐š๐ซ๐ฅ๐ฒ - - Everything should sit in Cry Vocal Mode โ€” top-down whimper or yawn, lifted behind the nose and eyes. - - If you want grit, build it from pure fry foundations so youโ€™re not just pushing raw. 3. ๐“๐ก๐ซ๐จ๐ญ๐ญ๐ฅ๐ž ๐ƒ๐ข๐ฌ๐œ๐ข๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ข๐ง๐ž - - Use/stay just below medium-throttle whenever possible. Save anything above medium-throttle for peaks, not whole songs. - - Throttle -- Assign a level of Throttle (light, medium, heavy) to each phonation. - - - - Light = little to no effort. - - - - Medium = some effort, good resonance, but still relatively relaxed. - - - - Heavy = shouting. Throttle is a spectrum from light to heavy. - - Volume -- Perceived loudness from the amount or size of resonance created. - - Bracing -- Core bracing, squeezing the rib cage, or โ€œplankingโ€ is necessary for sustaining distortion or longer phrases, rather than pushing or upping throttle. **๐ƒ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐†๐ข๐ ** - ๐๐š๐œ๐ž ๐˜๐จ๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฌ๐ž๐ฅ๐Ÿ: Think of it like athletic endurance. Not every song needs to be sung at โ€œall-outโ€ throttle. - ๐’๐ง๐ž๐š๐ค ๐ข๐ง ๐“๐ซ๐š๐œ๐ค๐ข๐ง๐ : Between songs or even during instrumental breaks, hum lightly on a lifted /Ng/ or /M/ to reset resonance and keep cry locked in. A 4mm diameter straw helps too. - ๐‡๐ฒ๐๐ซ๐š๐ญ๐ž ๐’๐ญ๐ž๐š๐๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ: Small sips, donโ€™t flood the system all at once.
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