I do know some plates are better than others, some aren't etched deep enough, and that sometimes causes transfer issues. But there are definitely some good ones from the cheaper sites. Patting gel - haven't tried it for stamping, to be honest 🤔. I *think* they could work? But that may be formula-based. To be fair though, you're probably better off getting the stamping polishes. They have fast-drying formulas that'll be better at capturing fine, intricate details cleanly without shrinking or shifting on the stamper. Gels tend to pool, self-level, and blur fine lines, making them much harder to pick up and transfer.