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Over the last few months I've been completing a diploma in Pastoral Supervision and Reflective Practice. What I've learned has already been having am impact in my spiritual direction practice with directees, as well as closer to home too. Much of that spills over into the thoughts shared on this space here. Oftentimes I've pondered what we have been considering about going 'beyond productivity' and Steven's announcement for next year is really exciting. It has seemed like the world has accelerated all the more since covid and AI. The little 'accidents' that result in life lived at such speed have taken further root: burnout, sickness, trauma... I'm curious to know how we can encourage others to think outside the box with us, without those people who 'treasure' their uber-productive approach (or feel trapped in its grasp) just responding with an accusation that this is just idealism or a 'nice to have' but its not the real world where 'no pain, no gain' and the hustle is still so central to the western mindset?
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@Derek Chirnside good for you, Derek, for starting on this new path. There's something to be said for the benefit of being in the present moment, knowing where we are now and then looking ahead even to the next little step on the road. Teresa of Avila said that as long as we're moving forward, then we won't slide backwards on the road! May your road be a fruitful one.
2 likes • Dec '25
@Nancy Menning what a great challenge to offer the naysayers Nancy, thank you. I read Cal Newport's email list and find him very helpful. His writing about 'Slow' really helped me too and I hope you find some gems there for you. Healthy rhythms of working are so crucial to consistency, not only in the realm of productivity but in going deeper, thinking more profoundly and letting ideas 'percolate' for a while in the moments of rest. Thanks for the reminder of Cal's book, I'll go and revisit it!
Music Making 'beyond productivity'
This evening my children and I sang in our first concert together. We joined our local choral society in January, and tonight we performed Bach's St Matthew passion with a professional orchestra and soloists. This is a a choir of amateurs that has run for over 60 years, fuelled on enthusiasm and a love of music. Listening tonight, I reflected on the fact that aside from our hard work to produce a good sound worthy of the piece and for the enjoyment of our kind audience, we also all entered deeply into the moment, benefitted from a weekly boost to our mental health through our practice, but also created something beautiful in the service of others, learned some hard lessons through persevering with a challenging work and engaged in some deep inner work through our perseverance with that challenge. It was a truly lovely example of being over doing, while offering something beautiful to others at the same time. I'd really recommend music making to anyone looking for a new hobby, no matter how simple it is. Music brings healing and joy to the human heart!
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@Patricia Sheerin you're right Patricia, it is rather a harmony of being and doing isn't it! Over the last couple of days, my boys (rather than my daughter) have commented on all the hard work that went into the concert, and then it was all over very quickly. They needed help to see the value in the joy and gift they had given. They understand they've learned a lot and grown in confidence through the experience, but the value to others had passed them by. They're only 12 (they're twins), so this is all new and a lovely opportunity for them in self awareness.
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@Kathrin Sandall you're so right Katrin and I can still see effect of this flourishing in my children. They've all been enthused afresh in their own music making thus past week since the concert!
An observation about 'being' rather than 'doing'
This bacame a bit long, apologies... This is my first post and my thoughts are just forming on this observation about 'being' rather than 'doing'. In my spiritual direction practice I regularly hear about burn out and stress from too much striving and doing. When I suggest more silence, quiet prayer and reflective practice (I work from a Carmelite perspective), I'm so often struck by how hard that is for my directees. Really hard. My observation is that so often the striving, doing and burn out is rooted in a deep disconnect with our understanding of our own intrinsic worth. If we believe we need to 'earn' approval, love, value and worth - whether that's in the eyes of God or others in our lives, or even ourselves - we will be forever striving. So we become human doings... In my practice I encourage silent prayer and meditation, reflective practice and prauerfully working through wounds (possibly also suggesting therapy alongside) to begin pondering upon our innate value and how loved we are. So often wounds and trauma have broken our ability to even see ourselves clearly. So often we're unaware of how clouded our vision has become. The Carmelite writers John of the Cross and Teresa of Avila have so much to teach on this healing work, becoming our true selves. Teresa only became aware of her own brokenness in her 40s and went on to become one of the most 'successful', formidable, leading women of history. Well, those are my thoughts after reading a few of the comments here. Apologies for the lengthy post!
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@John Fuchko, III thank you so Much John for this recommendation, it looks wonderful!
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@Kathrin Sandall thank you for your thoughtful sharing Kathrin. That must have been a wonderful experience to visit Teresa of Avila's shrine! You're so right that we contribute positively to society by our 'being' and not only by what we do/produce or make. By how we live, encounter others, approach life and inhabit our world, we can influence those around us, and everyone we meet, for the good! By being a prayerful/intentionally person too, we have a huge influence too ,I'm convinced, simply by our way of being. There may be nothing to 'show' for our time and efforts, but an effect is felt in the universe! As a SAHM who stepped away from a career, it's so important to value my own 'being' in the world. Beyond that its so important to encourage one another, thank you!
June…
What is everyone focusing on this month in their monk manual or otherwise?
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@Derek Chirnside interesting to see like that Derek, thank you!
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@Lauren Leigh Hinthorne thanks Lauren! It's a lovely website, very welcoming and great design. Can't wait to see how it develops. There are so many beautiful British wools. My aunt keeps Jacobs sheep and I've had some gorgeous brown and off white yarn from her little farm shop. She has the spinning done for her. Will you be selling wool for spinning too? I'm a fan of the drop spindle and would love to learn to spin properly. Meanwhile, knitting keeps me going! It's marvellous that you're starting this new venture, hats of to your courage and foresight!
Howdy!
So glad this community exists! MM user since the Kickstarter campaign. My business is called Spirituality Unboxed and I do spiritual direction and coaching, as well as being an interspiritual rabbi. I often use tabletop roleplaying games similar to Dungeons & Dragons for growth, exploration, and healing. I have a special commitment to my queer, kinky, and non-monogamous folk, not to "save" them, but rather because folks in these communities have often not felt comfortable or safe seeking spiritual care and have been ignored or even harmed by those providing spiritual care.
2 likes • Jun '25
Hi Menachem, that's fascinating about the role playing games you use with those you work with. I've used 'small world' items in a similar way (in SD and supervision) - usually just household odds and ends that come to hand. The idea of a game though is fun. Are your sessions very long? I can imagine it might take a while? I think your approach fits in so well with this theme of going 'beyond productivity', as you go deep with someone, with less concern for 'outcomes' and more taking time for the process of exploration and growth.
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Lizzie Sudlow
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I'm a wife, homeschool mum, spiritual director and pastoral supervisor. We live in Worcestershire, UK. There's so much I love about MM!

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