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Thank you all for sticking around. We have completed our relocation and we are enjoying a well-deserved holiday in Italy 🇮🇹 It's been a crazy ride trying to work, move between two houses and keep up with everything. It was a hard time as we lost our dog during this time, and this made a mark on my kids. I've also decided to step down from my active bartending job and move to a daytime job. I hope it will help me spend more time with my family and be able to film and engage more with all of you. Once we return from our holiday, I'll set up the studio and return to filming. I can't wait to see you all.
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4 likes • Aug 10
Enjoy yourself! You deserve it!
Skipping Stones
Anyone in the mood for an apricot sour variant? Kept it pretty basic. It was for a party so I didn't want to do too much prep for it. 2 oz Pierre Ferrand Cognac 0.5 oz Licor 43 1 oz spiced apricot syrup 0.75 oz lemon juice Toasted almond milk foam
Skipping Stones
1 like • Aug 2
@Stephane Foisy I tried it with apricot liqueur and it was one note and finished fast. The flavors of the licor 43 helped boost the spice flavors I had in the syrup as well as boost the almond flavor in the foam. The Licor 43 gave it some complexity that was needed.
How did you learn to make drinks?
Right now, I'm learning mostly by reverse-engineering cocktails that I like. I do it by taste then I try to ask for the specs from the bar. But, I've also made whiskey and amaretto sour, and grasshopper. Trying to explore more classics. It's so expensive though. So, learning isn't exactly easy (at least financially). I was thinking maybe learn one family of cocktails at a time. But, even then, it's such a big investment. How did you guys get through the learning phase while keeping your financial health intact? Lmao
4 likes • Jul 29
I worked at a restaurant that the bar manager let you straw taste the cocktails so you know how to sell it to customers. I was friends with the bartenders so every time they had a cocktail that I haven't tried, they would let me know. Eventually I learned what I liked, then I started working behind the bar. The bar I worked at did a lot of tasting of spirits and teaching about the spirits from the liquor representatives during times we were closed for the staff that were of age to drink. I learned what spirits a like and don't really like as much. Usually if you frequent a bar that has a good spirit collection you can ask to smell the bottle or taste a little bit of it. You of course need to buy something. I'd do it at a time and day when the bar isn't busy so you can spend time with a knowledgeable bartender and you can ask as many questions about spirits. I also wouldn't go for top shelf stuff either. A lot of bars don't really gatekeep recipes. Also, when I got behind the bar, I did a lot of reading. It helps with the training. The Bar Book by Morgenthaler has a lot of good info for basics in technique. The Cocktail Codex breaks cocktails down to it's roots. Liquid Intelligence is breaks down the science. There are tons of cocktail recipe books out there, but there are tons of cocktail recipes online as well. What I used to do when it came to experimenting with flavors was use a dropper and each drop I used represents 1/4 oz of the ingredient. I would need 2 drops to represent 1/2 oz 4 drop to represent 1oz, and so forth. That was how I didn't waste anything when I was creating new cocktails. I also wouldn't get drunk after tasting the same thing with different proportions of ingredients. Of course you can spit it out, but you would dump a 3-4 oz cocktail every time if you made it to scale of an actual drink a opposed to 12-16 drops.
Let’s talk ice.
I know many of us make clear ice (directional freezing). I personally had a challenge in storing. Sure zipper bags (ziplock) work but after several months they get “snow” in them(still usable with tempered to room temperature). To address this I make small batches or vacuum seal them (we all see videos about them). I don’t really like the vacuum heat seal because of the waste(throwing the bag once open, even if making smaller bag there is waste more waste then I like). Recently found reusable zip vacuum bags. They work quite well. Bunch of pros for them. Inexpensive, the vacuum pump can be a manual or battery pumps (great if camping and wanting to redone a seal on snacks, or dehydrated garnishes), come in a variety of brands and size, small in space (even the pumps are tiny). I am not promoting a brand/product but a type of product that maybe you have not seen. Con: The reseal is great when bag is at room temp so not for grabbing one ice cube and putting the rest back. For that I store in the ziplock style bags. But using small bags holding a few ice ball, spears etc. make them last a long time and allows to make bigger batches when time permits. Can be finicky to start the air extraction, Tips: flat surface works best to start the seal. Once sealed press the valve all around to firmly reseal (it’s a sticker). When washing press the seal before adding water and soap. Just another guarantee the sticker is stuck. Careful opening, it’s easy to use hulk force and destroy the zipper ends. Any who just thought I’d share in case this is something others may not have seen. And useful for other stuff.
Let’s talk ice.
3 likes • Jul 22
I always cut it in sizes first, then back into the freezer to refreeze, then I'd wrap each piece in plastic wrap
Thoughts on rum and whisky together in a drink?
I have bourbon, japanese whisky, and plantation 3 stars. I was planning on fatwashing either Toki or Days with peanut butter. Then, making banana liquer with rum and bananas. Thinking this would be like a manhattan of some sort with the og peanut butter banana combo flavor (I'm a beginner - i dont really know when a drink belongs to a certain type yet). Maybe there's no way to know until I try it but I'm not really in the financial position to just play around with the spirits. So, I wanted to get your thoughts on whether I should even try it or if your experience says it will be a waste of time. Appreciate your help!
3 likes • Jul 19
I would try them neat first. See what flavors you can pull out of them. Then try it with a little bit of dilution. I've noticed things in suntory toki when drunk neat, it has vanilla notes, caramel notes, hazelnut notes. When you add a dash of water or an ice cube, the flavor turns into a more fruity flavor like apple and pear. I wouldn't fat wash something expensive either. If you are going to experiment, do it in small amounts so you don't waste a full bottle. My ratio for fat washing has always been 4 parts spirit to 1 part fat. It also depends on the type of fat you are using. You could use less if it's a strong flavor or infused it for less time. As for plataray 3 stars, it has tropical fruit flavors like a roasted banana, and coconut husk. I would suggest using either dried or freeze dried bananas or the peels. Using fresh fruit can add water and dilution to the spirit. You will lose some of the spirit to the fruit or peels. As for the flavor combination, it sounds excellent! I've used peanut butter whiskey, a banana syrup, and homemade bacon fat washed Scotch to craft an Elvis Presley old fashioned. Good luck with everything! Don't be afraid to ask and keep us updated on your progress! We're all here to learn. As good as I am at creating cocktails, I never stop learning and reading.
2 likes • Jul 19
@Josh Cainglet we all started from somewhere. Don't beat yourself up. I went from serving at a chain restaurant to creating a high end restaurant's cocktail program. Now I'm working with an author of two cocktail books behind a bar. Just keep reading about spirits, and flavors, and everything there is to know about creating a cocktail. The internet is vast with knowledge and it's free lol. We're all here to help so please pick everyone's brain. I've won some cocktail competitions, but that doesn't mean I'll ever stop learning behind the bar. Also if you ever go to a mixology bar, ask the bartenders questions if it's not busy. 9 time out of 10 they'll be more than happy to talk cocktail specs and recipes with you. I geek out when a customer asks about it. Lol
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Darryl Madrigal
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Home mixologist, cocktail enthusiast, liquid chef, bartender on the weekends

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Joined Oct 7, 2024
Boston, Massachusetts