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4 contributions to Surplus Funds Secrets
Watch the machine: a real pull, fetch to sort
We pulled a county list today and ran it through the first stage of our read — fetch, parse, dates, sort. The rest happens at review. This is a watch-the-machine post: the run happened today, and every number below came out of that run. The list: Franklin County, Ohio, excess sales proceeds. The clerk's live page has a known-broken embed, so this run used a public web-archive capture of the clerk's report, printed August 20, 2025. Standing practice here is live page first; when a county's tooling is known down, the archive is the fallback, and we say so. That capture is about thirteen months old as of today's run — a snapshot of August 20, 2025, not a current statement of what is still unclaimed. What the machine did, in order: 1. Fetched the report. 248,088 bytes fetched. 2. 2. Parsed it for case numbers. 302 rows came back, with 302 distinct case-number tokens — no duplicate tokens at the row level. 3. 3. Stripped the dates. Sale dates in the file run from March 22, 2013 to August 19, 2025. 4. 4. Sorted by age. 29 rows carry a sale date older than seven years as of today. Then the part the machine cannot do, and the reason we run it at all. The parser does not know what it parsed. We do. Two reads on those 302 rows: First, age is not availability. The 29 rows older than seven years are the ones an operator circles — but the docket is where we go to check whether a claim was already filed or the money moved, and every old row gets that check before anything else. We did not run that check on this pull; this run stopped at the sort. In our process, age moves a row to the top of the review stack; it does not move it to the top of the workable stack. Second, a row count is not a claimant count. The 302 came back distinct — but in our experience a party can appear on more than one row, and we did not de-dupe by party on this pull; that happens at review. The parser gives you the raw number; the judgment call is knowing which number matters. One more honest note: the report carries dollar amounts. We do not republish them here — counts and dates only, same as always.
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Carl How do I find the Starter Map?
Why this shop works attorney-first
A question that comes up in almost every intro: do you really need an attorney to claim surplus funds? Need — sometimes no. Want — every time. Here is the operator math: Claims filed by counsel get treated differently. Clerks answer their calls, technical defects get cured instead of denied, and hearings move. A petition bounced on a defect can cost months — and in states with short claim windows, months you do not have. Several states have also decided this for you: non-attorney recovery help is restricted or fee-capped, and doing it wrong is not a business risk, it is a legal one. The rules are state-by-state and they are not suggestions. And the person you are helping deserves it. Surplus claimants have already been through a foreclosure. The cleanest thing you can hand them is a properly filed claim, not an experiment. So the model we teach — and run ourselves — is: operators find the money, verify the file, and locate the person; licensed counsel files the claim. That division of labor is Foundations 1, lesson five. It is also why the house rule says education, not legal advice. Nothing in this community substitutes for a licensed attorney in your state.
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In most non judicial states getting a trustee ( lawyer) to talk with you is a non-starter. Do your research to find a lawyer that understands this niche and its processes and you found a goldmine. We engage a lawyer on every case as a cost of doing business. The best part is once you hand it off to the lawyer you can go back to finding more claims. Since a lot of these cases have deceased owners you can refer the lawyer to handle the probate, etc. and help getting the claim moving forward. Once you start referring probate business to the lawyer they will be your friend forever.
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I always ask several questions, 1) Do you work on contingency basis or fee for service? If contingency what is your percentage? 2) What percentage of your business is handling surplus funds recovery? Aim for 50% or more. 3)When was the last surplus funds case and how was the recovered money distributed? 4) How is the best way to interact with you? Email, call? 5) Do you have a portal I can view the status of my claim and how often is it updated? You should interview the lawyer just like you would when hiring an employee. Google or ChatGPT searches should help identify the top 2-3 in your state.
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Matthew I saw your YT on Ai agents. How can we have a conversation on how you accomplished? At present I am a one man band with the exception of a cold caller. I'm past "normal" retirement age so want to keep organization as lean as possible moving forward.
Start here: your first rep, one evening
Five steps. This is the only post you need to begin. 1. Understand the work in one paragraph. 2. When a property sells at tax sale for more than the debt owed, the extra money — surplus funds — sits with the county until the right person claims it. The work is records and process: find the case, verify the money, verify the person, move the claim correctly. If you want the why first, Foundations 1 in the classroom explains the mechanism in five short lessons — but you can start the rep below today. 3. See one worked example. 4. Foundations 2 in the classroom walks one real FCAR file end to end: find, verify, trace, contact, close. Fifteen minutes. This is what acceptable work looks like before you produce your own. 5. Do one exercise — Homework #1. 6. Pull one county surplus list. These are public records and free: search "[county] excess proceeds list" with site:.gov, or go to the clerk / tax collector site. Pick three entries. For each one, write three lines: the county, when the list was generated, and how you would verify the entry is still open. 7. Submit in the pinned Homework #1 thread. 8. Post your three lines per entry there, in the format shown in that thread. Never post claimant names or dollar amounts — counties and dates only. 9. We reply. 10. You will hear whether your rep meets the exercise criteria and exactly what to do next. One rep done properly beats ten half-read lessons. House rules: no earnings claims from anyone, no pitching or DM solicitation, education not legal advice, post your work. Questions on any step — ask below.
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@Matthew Joffre Matthew I've closed and been paid in TX. I have another in PA & FL in process
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