I'm experiencing/generating gratitude as more of a pleasant state (like love) serving my-self to feel good, so therefore not a principle. Completely surrendering to principles of calm and/or whole & total tends to lighten things up a lot though! 😊 Maybe more effective? Keen to hear your experience. RD

@Lilia Hrabar Hi Lilia, hope all is well there. Going deeper into gratitude beyond social conventions, cohesion and feeling good. Another (person) 'allows for me'. Whatever form another person takes and subsequent expression: 'Allows for me' to be and to precisely not to be like another. Their existence allows for me to experience them as just that. Complete with charge and all that comes with the package of showing up as that person. Like all other people (Billions + billions) who are not me, allowed for me to exist, to take place in time as uniquely this and that. Gratitude as a Principle may be the realization of the designed perfection and inner and/or outer acknowledgement of the Perfection. Considerations: By having language, humans can get a world across to another and vice versa, with gratitude as acknowledgement of receiving the communication and experience of another. Creatures without language cannot express gratitude, except maybe as a perceived expression (projected by humans) i.e. the dog or cat seems glad when they receive food for example, more like a physiological expression, rather than an expression of gratitude. Robert

@David Williams I'm interested and generally available Saturday - Sunday, from 5am to 11pm Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST) works for me. What part of the world or time zone are you in?

Hi Felix, I think sleep cycle depends a lot on the person's lifestyle, habits, diet etc. Maybe just decide to go to sleep? Relax, don't worry be happy and breathe? Shut out the world, news, media, all that crap. Reduce stimuli? Maybe listen to soft music or rain ambience? Robert

@Epi Morph "I was busy harshly judging someone at work for sabotaging a project I was working on. I was fuelled with so much anger and injustice. Narratives spinning away.." Thanks for sharing, Epi Morph. I'm getting life is the perfect training ground for this (Consciousness Work). I can certainly relate and notice the potential there for constriction (endless suffering), it might be good to discover and align to a principle and/or a series of principles beyond the self during the interaction (i.e. include-change-move-turn into etc.) I'm making the distinction of clear judgement (I'll call assessment) and alignment to the purpose of the interaction from an intuitive-feeling sense, a place of a 'gut feel' or body charge prior to emotion, narratives, morality etc. Like, I assess person xyz is this way and move, when necessary, as if turning away from a toxic smell prior to constrict->narrative. When in danger...move! (possible Ralston quote?). If unable to move, stay. Calm. What are they up to? Them them them, their agenda, their patterns. Without thinking. Maybe turning towards. Stay with the purpose of the interaction. If not on purpose, change-move. How they experience themselves and not relate them to me. Now the thought of them is like a fart in the wind. Today I felt another attempt to impose their agenda on me. They failed (i.e. I noticed my constrictive tendency, stayed open, present in the interaction and rolled with it, they went away. Again like a fart in the wind 😁 I'm noticing when the thought of 'me' exits the picture interactions become smoother. Like extending Cheng Hsin Principles beyond a martial arts context into life ('struggle'). Insight right now, if the thought of 'me' disappears, 'they' tend to disappear as well...what remains is a calm presence. More work! - > Less strain. 🙂 Thank you.