Both were ASPCA workers and we talked about how all animals should be shown compassion. They said they loved animals. But they said they weren’t vegan. So we discussed having compassion to all animals, including those most people eat. And when I asked how many more animals should die in their name: zero or more than zero, both said “zero”. We must have compassion for all animals. And, We must have compassion for those not yet vegan. Speak from the heart with love.