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California Franchise Tax Board
I'm sure there are plenty of ways to get the franchise tax board to do a partial discharge. However, have any of you kept the lien on a property and rented it and held it as a cash flowing deal? I have done the due diligence and it appears they have the authority to sell it, however, I'm very curious what the actual situation is, vs. what they can do. My experience has been very unfriendly with them when I failed to pay employee taxes when my CPA forgot to handle it and the fees racked up fast. I'm thinking short sale bc its 300k+ business tax due. But also... if it just stayed there.... it makes sense for a rental kind of...
Any input on IRS liens as a roadblock?
I’m looking at a dirty-title file where IRS liens may be the main roadblock. Basic facts: As is value is roughly $110k IRS liens appear to be around $38k+ There are also heirs, legal/title costs, closing costs, and other deal expenses. After rough math, the deal may not have enough spread unless the IRS issue can be handled cleanly. From what I understand using AI, there are a few possible paths: 1. Certificate of Discharge — remove the IRS lien from this specific property so it can sell, while the taxpayer’s IRS debt may still remain. 2. Lien release / expiration — if the collection period expired or the IRS failed to refile before the “Last Day for Refiling.” I think they expire in 10 years unless renewed. 3. Payoff through closing — assume the IRS gets paid what its lien position is worth. 4. Offer in Compromise — possible in theory, but likely slower and taxpayer/estate-specific. My main question for people who have actually worked these: How do you handle IRS liens operationally when underwriting dirty-title deals? Do you usually: 1. treat the IRS amount as a hard payoff at closing. 2. try for a discharge from the specific property or an offer in compromise. 3. wait for expiration/self-release 4. or just kill the file unless the spread is still strong after paying the IRS? I am not assuming the IRS “settles cheap.” I’m trying to understand what the practical playbook is so I don’t waste time on files where the IRS lien kills the economics.
1 like • Jun 29
@Ellis San Jose After the lien renewal period have you had any refiled? I guess it really doesn't matter though if its a rental and never sold? Chris Craig told me about this in Subto and I love this.
Would You Trust AI Leads If You Controlled the Proof?
Most operators I’ve talked to don’t really trust “AI-generated leads.” And honestly, I get it. If a lead just appears in a spreadsheet with no clear source, no documents, no audit trail, and no way to verify it fast, it’s hard to trust. But what if the AI wasn’t just “generating leads”? What if it was doing the heavy lifting in the background, while you still had full control? You could see the county source. You could see the auction record. You could open the case documents. You could verify the surplus amount. You could check liens, ownership, deadlines, and contact data. The AI would just remove 80% of the painful manual work: auction tracking, document reading, skip tracing, case organization, and first-pass qualification. So my question is: Would you trust AI-assisted leads if every case was source-backed, transparent, and easy to verify? Or is the trust issue deeper than that?
2 likes • Jun 29
My question beyond this, would be in California especially, what else would you want to look for if you could scrape all the pertinent data to get you past all the relatively straight foward unclouded deals? I've been playing with this too... probate is a little tricky when the county doesn't disclose much. I had to work around a bunch of blockers.
3 likes • Jun 29
I built mine because when doing short sales i can see partial claims and other goofy items that I might not catch on property radar or other paid services. This has been eye opening to say the least.
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