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51 contributions to Pay Per Lead Nation
 Scaling Pay-Per-Lead The Hard Way (Then The Smart Way)
I’ve been in the performance space for a while. We’ve built and run ad campaigns across a bunch of local service niches (electrical, lighting, automation, etc.), and recently started scaling a proper pay-per-lead model across a few cities. Here’s what I’ve learned the hard way so far: - Tracking and client transparency kill most early PPL models. If the client doesn’t trust your numbers, they stop paying fast. - Lead quality is 90% about offer positioning, not ad targeting. Once we switched from “Free Quote” to “Free Home Safety Check,” our CPL dropped and close rate tripled. - Automation only matters if it fits the client. Fancy tech means nothing if their office still writes quotes on paper. We’re now using AI to follow up with leads, score them based on response behavior, and feed real-time lead quality data back into the ads. It’s getting scary good. Curious.. for those already deep into this model: 👉 What’s the biggest bottleneck you’re still running into when scaling pay-per-lead? Let’s trade notes and see if we can shortcut each other’s learning curve.
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Hey @Lowell Rempel some great insights there! I like the one about the offer positioning & CTAs, great tip. So you're using Ai bots to do the instant lead engagement on behalf of clients? or before sending to clients, so they get leads + a score? My biggest bottleneck to scaling further is probably CPL staying low while scaling. As we spend north of $5k a day the CPA tends to blow out too much, making the volume gains redundant. What are yours?
September Results $51,254.40 in profit
I haven't posted a performance update for a little while, so here's one for the whole month of September. I'm not sharing this to show off, but rather to show what a mature PPL agency can do in 1 vertical, which is what you should be aiming for. It did take us about 15 months to reach this level, it certainly didn't happen over night! Any questions, please let me know!
September Results $51,254.40 in profit
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@Igor Carvalho thank you 🙏
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@Kim J 2 VAs for lead processing and client order set up, one is more CSM. Then a part time media buyer to help m w ads. My biz partner does sales and key client relationships.
Leadshook
A quick overview of why I like Leadshook for forms when starting out in Pay Per Lead: https://www.loom.com/share/553a50b2ad20411784b34eced3b8250a?sid=72bbb7c6-f8c9-4770-aa83-afef08853c26 I have also used Feathery, Heyflow, GHL & native HTML forms. My recommendation is: Start with Leadshook to dial in your question flow & completion rate Get page conversion rate to 10%+ Switch to Feathery or pure HTML form to get a 10% boost in conversion rate (they are slightly faster than Leadshook) Heyflow is good but doesn't have one time pin verification built into it. Instead they do number lookup validation which isn't as good IMO.
Leadshook
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@Rich Omega oh ok, they've just brought it in
Potential high-volume client
Hey, I am working in FEX in Germany and could get maybe my first high-volume client (insurance company). The problem: My contact wants to control everything, the funnel, ads etc, and also wants to talk or call with my current clients to see if its legit and also expect that the standard is that I am giving them a established story, sales process, scripts etc. (what I dont have yet), legal things etc. and it feels more like he would be my stressfull boss. So there is a huge potential, but because of those reasons I really dont have a good feeling and it feels extremely draining and would prefer to focus more on my own modell, because this is the opposite why I started with PPL. What would you do in my position?
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Yeah don't do it, another opportunity will come along for sure! We do PPL to get control of our own assets & time, not to have bosses.
Thoughts on Auto Finance/Refinance Industry?
Hi everyone, I am new to PPL Nation - excited to be here! I currently help scale coaching offers through marketing and ops. I am new to the lead gen game, and have a quick question on the industry I am looking to get started in: Auto refinance Does anyone have any experience generating traffic for this? From what I can see, my main buyers are going to be auto lenders, banks & credit unions. However, I wouldn't foresee them prepaying for leads. Does anyone have any insights on the industry, getting buyers, CPL, CAC, & payouts? Information online seems to be pretty scarce leading be to believe this is either untapped or not worth pursuing. Thanks in advance!
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Hey @Jack Lindstrom welcome to the group! I have seen a lot of ads running in this space on spy tools (like Pipiads) , so I think its a great niche with big buyer volume. Here's an example ad: https://www.tiktok.com/@Upstart/video/7083255732274990338?_r=1 This is the end client brand: https://www.upstart.com/i/auto-refi See if you can get some buyers first with ads or outreach, then run up some campaigns.
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@Jack Lindstrom yeah it has the hall markers of a great offer. Go get it!
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