Norms reminder - dietary dogma
Hi everyone, I just wanted to remind everyone to keep our group norms in mind when expressing our views about dietary interventions. I’ve noticed there is a little bit of dietary dogma (likely unintentional) going on and some contentions being expressed in ways that are getting close to the line of giving medical advice. While most of us follow Prof. Seyfried’s low GKI approach as part of metabolic therapy, this is not a carnivore group. Prof. Seyfried himself doesn’t prescribe a specific diet, he just recommends we get into nutritional ketosis and “drive the GKI way down.” One of the reasons this group was created was that in the “Keto for Cancer” group (in which some of us initially connected mid-2024) people who were not carnivore were vilified. I was one of these people. I was asked by the creator of that group to post photos of my meals (general keto, vegetarian keto and carnivore) and I did this pretty regularly with the intention of being helpful and inclusive. Then, when the creator quickly shifted his dietary stance to meat-only (in order to repackage and sell his own diet plan that he previously lacked success in) things got ideological and nasty. This is the context leading up to when I was suddenly questioned for posting meals that included olives, avocado and other plant-based fats. I was told this was “probably why people like [me] end up with cancer.” Not only is such a comment insensitive, there is no medical or scientific evidence for it. As such, if I have ever in any way made anyone who has had success with a vegetarian or vegan ketogenic diet feel bad, I sincerely apologise for this. Whether someone is having success with a strict carnivore diet, “dirty” carnivore diet, animal-based diet, omnivore ketogenic diet, vegetarian ketogenic diet, Mediterranean diet, calorie restricted diet, or even a vegan diet, it is not our place to give unsolicited dietary advice. With positive intent, we can certainly reference studies and draw on our own lived experience. I am a qualified nutritionist and have tried different ketogenic diets, but I only share my lived experience - I do not profess to know which diet is most universally applicable in the context of cancer management. There is no data to irrefutably support this yet. So, when I talk about my concerns about the extent to which my overconsumption of animal protein impact growth signals IGF-1 and mTOR - which are upregulated in my own cancer cells - this is about MY situation only. My intention is not to fear-monger and it is absolutely fine to disagree with this. But it is not appropriate to give unsolicited medical advice to other warriors in favour of the dietary approach that aligns with your current views. It is also against our group norms to take my lived experience (or anyone’s lived experience) and use it as a false pretext for attacking my views and taking them out of context.