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New to ICM? Get hands on learning experience here
Step-by-step interactive guide from idea to output. Design an ICM workflow alongside Maya, one decision at a time, and watch a messy process become something an AI can run again and again. Right now, Maya has to try to remember what needs to be done and where each piece of information is kept. She needs a better solution. https://claude.ai/public/artifacts/7c9618f4-8324-4048-902c-cbcf77c9c102 Let’s build one with her. 😀
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@Carla Bosteder Yeah. I tried a few. Realizing after what you put together that I was approaching it wrong though. I tend to over-engineer and ended up building ICM workspaces with 10+ stages. Ended up losing oversight and control of what was happening because it was too far outside of my control expertise or know how that I would just let it run A to Z. Products only worked for specific design cases and any edge case broke the system. It was a 3D print file generator. I did also do a grocery list creation tool personalized to my family. That one works better. Looking at doing another for curriculum creation. Probably will lean on Jake’s workflow and adapt our internal processes into his workflow for that one.
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@Carla Bosteder That’s how I started. I even audited a few times throughout checking to verify it was following the paper’s guidance but it still went off the rails. I fed it the folder guide from the vault and it basically ripped me a new one and pointed out all my flaws. Lol. Realized I wasn’t really saving any tokens, just constrained the LLMs capabilities to perform and limited its ability to go outside of the box to think.
Connection Hub:🌱 Solo, Student & Exploring
Intros for The Connection Hub - The Vault 👤 Who I am: (name + where you're based) 🛠️ What I actually do: (the specific work — not "I'm in real estate" but "I run a 3-agent team doing residential resale in Austin") 🤖 What I'm building with AI right now: (your current project, workflow, or the thing you're stuck on) 🎯 What I'm looking for connection-wise: (pick one or two) 💡 Someone who's solved [X] 🤝 A collaborator / accountability partner 👀 Just here to learn from people in my field 🧰 Trading workflows & systems 📬 Best way to reach me: (DM here / comment / link)
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👤 Who I am: Brandon + Colorado, USA 🛠️ What I actually do: Recently moved into hosting training courses and I manage a team of 4 people. Previously was doing contract management, oversight, compliance, and budgets. Want to start a marketing agency or AI implementation agency on the side. 🤖 What I'm building with AI right now: I’m just trying to eliminate friction from my normal human tasks like grocery shopping, dropping the ball on kids school stuff, and balancing work schedule. Also, for fun I built a 3D STL file generator that I use for fun/personal projects. Also, have created marketing materials using ICM for friends. 🎯 What I'm looking for connection-wise: (pick one or two) 💡 Someone who's solved everyday human problems. 🤝 A collaborator / accountability partner 👀 Just here to learn from people in my field 🧰 Trading workflows & systems 📬 Best way to reach me: DM here
Poll: What's In Your Toolbox?
Edited: 100+ have voted Results to follow Thank You Please take ten seconds to respond to this poll — it helps everyone see the real meta! I’ll like every comment. BONUS: If I can twist @Jake Van Clief ’s arm, we’ll pick one random commenter for 1 month of premium access — for free once we hit 100+ votes! Vote and reply! Main method you use for interacting with AI agents right now? WHAT"S IN YOUR TOOLBOX RIGHT NOW?
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Poll: What's In Your Toolbox?
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I use Claude + VS but I’m looking to develop my own harness because I work on a closed loop system most days and will need to build something internally. I already have an API for a model that works on that system, but need to give it tools and data and processes so it can execute autonomously. Still figuring all that out…
If Your Specialized Agents Don't Think Differently. They Should.
My daughter @Brooke Hays has been studying cognitive functions for five years. She's 17, just graduated, and looking to become a holistic health coach. Last month, she typed 18 of my OS agents in one night using this framework. Today, she ran a live experiment for us on the Bullhorns & Bullseyes podcast. Two ChatGPT Projects (specialized agents). Same base model. Same prompt. Same input. Different cognitive functions wired into the instructions. Leora (Ne-Ti): came back with five ranked hypotheses and started asking unprompted follow-up questions. Her job was to explore the possibility space before locking anything down. Malachi (Ni-Te): one sentence on what was happening, then step-by-step logic, then exact next actions. No hypotheses. No exploration. Just the path. Same prompt. Different mind. Here's the operator problem: most agent teams are built like a roster of Michael Jordans. Same base model, same instruction pattern, same cognitive shape. You get consistency, but you lose the thing Rodman gave the Bulls - the guy who couldn't shoot and was irreplaceable anyway. The Bulls of the 90's had Jordan, Pippen, Grant, Kerr, Cartwright, Rodman, Kukoc. The argument we're proposing is that you want a diverse team. A diverse team of specialists, correctly assembled, is better than a team full of 5 Michael Jordans. Or take the 2002 Oakland Athletics, for example, made famous by the movie Moneyball. The A's featured a mix of college draftees, veteran players, and international all-stars. The diversity of the team wasn't just in their backgrounds; it was cognitive as well. With a front office that was willing to value unorthodox styles, older players, and statistical indicators that the rest of MLB ignored. Here's how we see it: your research agent and your copywriting agent should not think the same way. A Ne-Ti research agent generates possibilities and asks questions you didn't think to ask. An Ni-Te execution agent closes the loop and tells you what to do next. Run them in sequence and you've got a team. Wire them the same and you've got one guy doing everything at half capacity.
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Interested to check this out. Enjoyed the last episode. This one sounds interesting too.
🎆 THE LAST SALE EVER — HELP US GET TO VEGAS 🎆
🎯 WE READ ALL OF YOUR RESPONSES. HERE'S WHAT'S NEXT (AND A BIG ASK) A couple weeks ago we asked you what you wanted Clief Notes to become. You showed up. You wrote real, thoughtful answers, some of you wrote essays. We read every single one. Twice. So before anything else: thank you. This post is us answering you. 💬 YOU TOLD US. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE BUILDING. You said you want a clearer path from learning ICM to actually getting paid for it. → It's coming. A real learning-to-earning track, plus a talent platform we're building to connect you with people who want to hire what you can do. Heads up: the talent platform will be Premium and VIP only, one more reason to lock in below. You said competitions without feedback don't help you grow. → Fixed. Going forward, every single entrant gets tailored feedback on their build, not just the winner. We're moving to two competitions a month so we can do it right. And both monthly winners get a 30-minute call with me. You said the best builds get buried in the feed. → We're building a tagged library so you can actually find "ICM setups for solo operators" or "small team, non-coder" instead of scrolling for an hour. You said you couldn't map all the pieces, Skool, Discord, the Lyceum, ICM, what each tier unlocks. → A single orientation page is on the way. One place that breaks all of it down so nobody's lost. You said you want to connect with each other. → We hear you. Meetups, pairing, and a recorded "After Tea" hangout are on the table. South Florida alone has over 1,000 of you. Let's use that. You said we've felt spread thin. → The most honest one. You're right. We're bringing on real help to run the day-to-day so the community gets consistency, and so Matt and I can keep building the things above instead of dropping balls. You called it, and we're fixing it. 📍 QUICK NOTE ON ICM: a few of you asked for "ICM with Copilot" or "ICM with n8n, Sheets, GoHighLevel." Good news, ICM already works with any model and feeds straight into the tools you're using. It's the structure underneath all of them, not a separate thing you have to relearn per tool. If that's not landing for you, that's on us to make clearer, and we will.
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Just upgraded to premium. Excited to dig in to the vault.
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Professional overthinker. Amateur everything else. I build systems, test ideas, play with AI, and occasionally turn caffeine into something useful.

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Joined May 28, 2026
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