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I just got a notification in my email, and I'm submitting this reply to test the platform. I hope everyone is enjoying the fine spring weather!
1 like • Apr 18
Hello Mr. Langan. Weather is good, hope you're doing well. And thank you for the CTMU!
Question for Chris and CTMU Enthusiasts:
What if information possesses an "energy-mass" quality? Could what we perceive as "dark matter" actually be a form of information? This perspective invites us to explore the relationship between knowledge and the fabric of the universe. How might this reshape our understanding of dark matter within the CTMU framework? ?
0 likes • Jan 6
@Turtle Miles There may be times in life of a person when he/she is weighted down by deficiencies of religious or common-moral views and feels internal strive for liberation and renewal, but Nihilism, if placed in highest regard and isn't timely conteracted upon, leads to moral corruption and compromise.
0 likes • Jan 7
@Turtle Miles I'll answer this comment paragraph by paragraph in order. (1) What you write here is correct. My question was, if there is this process of "sorting out", some states are preferred upon others, and sorting out must be guided by some principle(s). So if one state is better than the other, what would be the ultimate best state and what is the principle? (2) Indeed, established human cultures are not abosolute truths. It can be demonstrated when we easily find inconsistencies in those cultures. However, I haven't seen a good objection to CTMU. (3) I don't suggest you blindly following CTMU, you can take any time you want to learn every bit of it (I myself haven't read _all_ Langan's works, but what I've already learned forces me to give a giant benefit of a doubt to CTMU, that's why I'm talking from position of its proponent.), but stating you doubt it's absolute truth and not providing any meaningful retort doesn't serve anyone for good. By the way, notice how major metaphysical disagreements in different cultures often stem from the structure of and relations between higher secondary telors. CTMU tells us necessary minimum about them. (4) In this interpretation of your argument, I would say that such reliving is unpleasant experience. It would mean that I failed to pass my life lessons and need to repeat them. In harmonic movement of secondary telor through his/her lifetime, present moment constantly brings new experiences and hues of feelings and emotions. (5) See (3). (6) Thanks for the movie recommendation, I'll watch it.
Is Telesis finite?
Tommy says "it depends." An excellent answer. Here's what it led me to. Let's say that telesis is infinite in quantity. An unlimited resource. If it is the case that telsis is infinite in quantity -then it must be limited in its availability; by virtue of it's dependence on God's ability to harvest it, and the Devils ability to harness or parasitize it. We must assume that in a sea of unlimited amounts of raw unbound telesis -God's ability to harvest it: is limited, or at risk of becoming inferior to the Devils ability to parasitize it; once it becomes bound telesis within the terminal domain -were the Devil is also bound. If telesis was not limited in this manner or another; then the conflict between God and the Devil would be non-existent. God will not destroy the Devil, becuase the devil is a critical component of the terminal domain that has gone awry - thus the Devil must be reconciled and saved, if the terminal domain is to be saved. So in the hypothetical instance that unbound telesis is infinite in quantity: the conflict between God and the Devil then imparts that God's ability to harvest, utilize, and secure sufficent amounts of unbound telesis to achive his will within the terminal domain; is in question. If God is all knowing, this would not be in question -it would be known fact. And so I think that God is very aware -that: there are more ways to fuck this up; than there are ways to get it right. Yes -God is all knowing, and all powerful- but he is not all controlling. This terminal domain we all reside in is an unprecedented attempt of self actualization. I apriciate this very much. It is my beleif, and I beleive I have attained it through the process of logical induction; applied to the CTMU. This feels quite fitting considering that the CTMU was itself created through logical induction.
2 likes • Dec '24
Thanks for insightful thoughts, Ginger Wildcat. The closest physical analogue of telesis is energy, and although it comes in chunks and is measurable, the telesis is just a broader concept and can't be represented in Joules. In my view, Devil is antithesis to an entity one step lower than God and the transition from secondary to Primary telor state corresponds to merging of all dualities and internalizing all identities including devil. Given the devil's lack of coherence, it needs to be constantly regenerated by higher power, namely God. If we call the devil a highest evil entity, it probably persists exactly one cycle of creation, however I'm not really sure on this one.
Mind = Reality?
"Mind Equals Reality." Without Reality, there is no Mind, and without a Mind, there is no Reality. This is, of course, true at a human scale: we would have no experience of the world and no way to interact with or control reality if not for our mind, but what does this have to do with reality theory? This confusion marks an inescapable dualism in human thought between the human being and reality. We see ourselves as separate entities living 'inside our skins', and our intelligence, creativity, drives, needs, and desires are ours and ours alone. According to materialistic cosmology, we are alive, and the universe is dead. But the CTMU presents a radically different worldview: we are alive, and the universe lives (in part) through us. We are not APART FROM reality. We are A PART OF reality and hence produce a conscious experience of reality by itself. The CTMU says that there is only ONE BEING in all of existence (the universal mind), and we are interconnected in ways not discernible on this plane of reality. Reality is both logical and experiential, meaning that part of the way that the universe shapes its evolution is through experience, which manifests in our minds as conscious awareness of being a separate entity. But, in reality, we are not separate entities; we are not "inside our skins" but shape reality through agentive telesis, forming an integral part of reality's structure and dynamics as observer-participants. Reality itself is fundamentally mental: our individual minds emerge from the fabric of reality, which contains by its very structure the potential for human consciousness. We are not individuals; we are, in reality, EXPRESSING ITSELF as an individual. Reality itself contains the unified viewpoint of every mind and beyond, producing a bright and vivid experience of reality and the universal self, which language can only begin to describe. The universe is ALIVE and conscious, and we are IMPORTANT, not because of our physical size but because of our incredible mental ability. It is through the connection of our minds that we are attached to the MIND OF GOD, in whose image and likeness we are made.
1 like • Dec '24
In my mind this topic immidiately brings about the logico-geometric duality of CTMU. I think it is no coincidence that terms logical forms, Platonic / Aristotelian F/forms and geometric forms all use the same word for seemingly different purposes. The common denominator is coherent structure. In our earthly bodies we're all quite adept in dealing with geometry of spatial states, yet from the distance looms this initially elusive stucture of cognitive world. In the course of continual application of mental discipline, the structure of the former part of duality crystallizes into beautiful patterns. When we succeed in the process of rebinding our telesis (in teleologically sound way), we can identify with increasingly more entities, feel freer and embrace dynamics which were previously unavailable. Is the mind = reality? It must be in the ultimate identity. When the mind embraces truly all, the body cannot differ.
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