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Pitched $5,500 to an investment banking startup, how I found them
For context: I've been freelancing on Upwork for about 13 months and I've made close to $20k on it. Its nothing crazy, but its good work but here's the thing about Upwork. On paper it's amazing because there's clients everywhere ready to spend but in reality it's brutal, because its sooo saturated. A GOOD job goes up and within minutes it has 50 proposals on it. If you're not one of the first to apply, the client may never even opens yours. So for months my whole life was the jobs page. Refreshing it all day, just trying to get in early. I was basically a human refresh button lol. I got sick of it, so I built a tool for myself with Claude Code that watches Upwork around the clock, picks out the jobs that fit what I do, and tells me the moment they're posted, with the start of a proposal already written. A little while ago it flagged a job from an investment banking startup. I got my proposal in within minutes and I got a message from the client. Over the next few weeks I worked with them while I scoped out what they needed. Then I pitched them an automation project worth $5,500. I'll be honest, they haven't signed yet, so I'm not going to pretend it's closed. But I scoped it properly, I pitched it, and the whole thing started because my tool saw their job before 50 other people did. Here's a short video of how the system works and how I find clients like this: https://www.loom.com/share/8deead0b0f734665a45ab270dc5d2ccb If you use Upwork to find clients, how do you handle the early-applicant problem? And for those who've pitched bigger projects, what actually got them over the line?
Pitched $5,500 to an investment banking startup, how I found them
1 like • 6d
how much money do you spend on buying connect credits on upwork?
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@Mabela Organ have not started yet, how about you?
Can someone review these 2 of my copywriting practice
I have found some copywriting prompts for products. Can you tell me are they too chatty and did I communicate well with the readers as well. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r46HljJLCSyBvmuC9RTcFKTu3IFbPQ2uMNm6XWrUkLs/edit?usp=sharing https://docs.google.com/document/d/11N0zfYoICf3fO41HLk8zNr-AsSJ-fSgVoqTiPVJtGEA/edit?usp=sharing
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Your strongest skill is empathy. Both emails begin with a relatable problem: - Back pain that keeps returning - Forgetting or avoiding a camping chair because it is bulky or uncomfortable That makes the reader feel understood. Your copy also follows a useful structure: problem → frustration → product discovery → benefits → offer. The main areas to improve are: 1. Use more natural and grammatically correct English. 2. Reduce filler such as “trust me,” “follow along,” and repeated rhetorical questions. 3. Make the product benefits more concrete and believable. 4. Avoid claims that sound medically risky or exaggerated. 5. Make the call to action more direct.
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@Micah Yeager yes
GHOSTED COPY
Wrote a personalized copy for a potential client on insta(you know that giving free value lesson tyson taught us?!) only for it to get ghosted, lol. Attaching it here, do drop your reviews and feedbacks please https://docs.google.com/document/d/11TwiK90Jb7BdoTGh0h1qm_c8X2qxpbyuNnyeUJYnx5c/edit?usp=sharing
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This is a strong, relatable piece: the “toddler at bedtime” comparison adds personality, and the pain points are clear. I’d tighten the opening slightly and avoid absolute claims like “works” unless you can support them. Also, make the CTA more specific than “getting started”, tell the reader exactly what they’ll receive after clicking. Overall, good conversational tone and strong flow.
How long should my email be?
The SINGLE most asked question in the history of copywriting… And a question that has definitely crossed your mind at least once. So what's the answer? TBH? There ain't ONE single answer for this… Some say shorter is better. Some say longer is better. And some even give us “numbers” (like 230-250 words). So… Who is right? Well, both are right in their own places… Sales emails should be LONGER cuz you’ve got to convince the reader to buy from you. While in a welcome email, it should be short cuz they already bought from you and know what they bought. “But shorter is better overall, right?” TBH? NO. While many copywriters nowadays prefer shorter over longer emails, both the old legends and today’s highest-paid marketers strongly prefer longer copy. “The more you tell, the more you sell.” ~ John Caples “Long copy always beats short copy... if it's written well.” ~ Todd Brown “The more facts you tell, the more you sell. An advertisement cannot be too long if it is interesting.” (my personal fav) ~ Vic Schwab And so on… “Okay… but that was back then; nowadays, people don't read long emails; they’re much busier now.” Actually… NO. People definitely still read long text. Novels. The best example I could give you is a NOVEL. You might have read one at least once in your life. So... when you start reading the first page... Did you think: "It looks so boring... so much text... not interesting"? "Maybe a little, but I didn't quit." And when you read a few more pages? "Nope. It got more interesting as I read!" Then what's wrong with your email? It’s not like novels have some special power that hypnotizes the reader... People say it feels that way because it was so good they couldn't stop reading... But at the end of the day, it was just plain text written by a human like you. A copy is never too short or too long; it’s just too boring. When people can scroll for 7 hours a day… Watch a 2-hour movie on Netflix… Read memes on Reddit for 3.5 hours…
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Jut a few sentences.
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Anas Chowdhury
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Founder of Clik Email Tracker. I do SEO, Lead Gen & Bulk Email Services.

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