Apr 9 (edited) • General discussion
Platonic vs. traditional cold approach
Clinical Psychologist Abdul Saad:
“An authentic grounded man is comfortable with putting his sexual agenda on the table if he is attracted to a woman. He doesn’t have to hide his feelings behind a veneer of niceness. If there’s attraction there, if there’s a spark there, an authentic grounded man will make that known.”
Social circle expert Michael Sartain on showing intent:
"Intent has failed guys and is the number 1 thing pick-up gets wrong about female attraction. Preselection will do most of the heavy lifting for you. In fact, preselection is responsible for 80% of whether or not a woman is attracted to you."
I agree with both of these gentlemen but only with the former when it comes to NICE guys.
First off, learning cold approach is non-negotiable.
-> So do we do it with or without expressing intent? It depends on where you are in your journey, what level. What Sartain says works for me now, but it wouldn't have 5 years ago. It works for me now because I'm no hyper agreeable NICE guy anymore.
Let’s put it this way: Can you transform from hyper agreeable NICE guy to confident leader who makes women laugh without ever learning and experiencing what it’s like to express intent? Perhaps.
BUT... and this is a big BUT--
Making their sexual attraction for women known is the No. 1 obstacle hyper agreeable NICE guys must overcome to dip their toe in the water. The fact they are sexual beings to begin with (in accordance with a man's biology) is Level numero uno #1. You can ditch intent later as you level up--matter of fact you should, and Michael is spot on.
However, skipping it will make the transformation take way longer, and that's best case scenario. Worst case: you never actually make the transformation to begin with.
I see it with guys who are trying to apply platonic cold approach as part of Michael's social circle game without ever having done any traditional cold approach (pick-up). It's a lot harder for them.
Why? They have not sufficiently desensitized themselves to rejection that's predicated on them being a sexual human being. As you begin doing cold approach, being platonic might be all you can stomach. But again, there are levels to this, MANY MANY MANY levels.
Soon after getting your foot off the ground, you'll want to push yourself in the direction of making an interaction man-to-woman and showing intent in some way shape or form. Focusing on other things at that slightly past newb level is just another form of avoidance.
In a way, you have to have gone through some of the cringe of showing intent to come out the other end and be the wiser for it.
You'll get to come back to being platonic as you rise up the levels.
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Platonic vs. traditional cold approach
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