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Sunday The 7th December Gathering
Some interesting topics were discussed, if you want to know more then you must watch.
Sunday The 7th December Gathering
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@Lance Tycholaz Thanks for putting my question forward. I see that it led to a wonderful exchange and deep discussion!
Claim of Recognition and Citizenship
I have a question regarding the Claim of Recognition and asserting my non-derogable rights: When I make my Claim of Recognition and withdraw my consent to be treated as a statutory creature by the government, is it not a conflict to remain a citizen for the purpose of having a passport so that I can travel internationally? If it is a conflict, how would you go about it? Renouncing citizenship means you don't have a passport.
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@Tedi Jedi That makes sense. However, would you not have to send the Claim of Recognition then also to the governing bodies in those countries that you are travelling to?
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@Lance Tycholaz Thank you! This is a wonderful breakdown of how Article 16 applies. Would it be wise to always carry a copy of the Claim of Recognition with me?
A Question for the Group from Timm
I have a question regarding the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties. "Article 53 renders void any law contrary to peremptory norms." But Article 53 refers to treaties between states and not domestic laws. "This means that if any agreement, policy, or law contradicts a jus cogens norm, it is null and void from the beginning." Is this technically correct? Of course, the ICCPR is a treaty between states, and Article 4.(2) may be covering what Article 53 of the Vienna Convention is talking about... some clarity would be great :)
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@Lance Tycholaz Sounds like a plan. I will try my best to be there, but also have family commitments. Based on what I could find out, the concept of peremptory norms goes back to philosophers in the 18th century and concepts of natural law, based on fundamental values of the international community. It appears that the founding of the UN was based on the aftermath of WW2 and the need to prevent such global conflicts, and promote peace instead. There are, of course, allegations out there that the purpose of the UN was to create a one world government (new world order), etc. However, I am wondering if those allegations have been put out there by bad actors on purpose in an attempt to discredit and smear the good intentions behind the UN. After all, if it was purely evil then it would have never shown interest in the VC, the covenants and in establishing an International Court of Justice. It does seem that there is more good than evil out there, even in those institutions. Ultimately, even an internet search states that peremptory norms "emanate from the 'universal juridical conscience' and the fundamental values of the international community of States as a whole." That "juridical conscience" is an interesting description, because part of the recognition process if to recognize one's conscience and its power. Where does that conscience come from and what is it connected to? That I yet have to find out :)
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@Lance Tycholaz No, I haven't yet found an explanation. Unfortunately, I won't be able to join because I'll be at my child's Christmas concert.
Eternal Creator
This thread will be ongoing. I will post clips of what we have been discussing about concerning the deception of these eternal beings. This is real not imagination, not hallucination. https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1FEtCSMMWG/ https://www.facebook.com/reel/1167671208804005
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It looks like some people may be lost forever (so brainwashed you can not get them back).
Well said
I think John nailed it with this statement: "When the conscious being begins to question the framework in which it was taught to believe, recognition returns. Not the recognition of the system, but the recognition of the self. And in that moment, subjugation no longer feels natural β€” it feels criminal. Not because one is told so, but because one knows so."
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