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Why do all attempts at community seem to follow the same route?
I have seen and partaken in many spiritual groups over the last 40 years, most have systematically followed that same pattern of rise and collapse. I've tried to understand this from many points of view, spiritual, psychological, group dynamics, and others. All were interesting but left me unsatisfied and with the feeling that something was missing. A few years ago I discovered Complex Systems Theory and had a eureka moment. Human groups can be understood as Complex Adaptive Systems (CAS), composed of interacting agents whose local behaviors give rise to emergent global structures. Within such systems, certain individuals can become attractors—points around which attention, meaning, and coordination begin to organize. This dynamic is particularly visible in cult formation. From an initially diverse population, one agent emerges as a central attractor. Attention flows toward this individual in the form of praise, trust, and projection. In return, the leader produces meaning—“wisdom”—which reinforces the followers’ orientation toward them. A positive feedback loop is established: attention generates authority, and authority amplifies attention. As this loop intensifies, the system begins to close in on itself. Information that contradicts the internal structure is filtered out, while coherence within the system is reinforced. The group evolves toward an increasingly autonomous and self-referential organization, where alignment is rewarded and deviation is either corrected or rejected. What emerges is not merely social cohesion, but a form of dynamic enclosure. This process can be mapped onto the NSS/SOS landscape of consciousness. NSS (Non-Survival Sensations) correspond to openness, exploration, and the capacity to perceive the full landscape of experience. SOS (Survival-Oriented Sensations), by contrast, narrow the field around threat, control, and stability. In the early stages of group formation, NSS dynamics may dominate—curiosity, inspiration, a sense of shared meaning. But as the system grows in complexity and begins to protect its own structure, SOS dynamics increasingly take over.
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@Chiti Anand maybe the challenge is to get the right balance of mind and heart?
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@Chris Gritti I think that we are all always motivated to act to get something. Everyone is trying to optimize their position in a group to reply to their own personal needs. This is not bad or egotistic, it's the way all systems work. These needs determine the rules that hold the group together or break it apart. To understand the group as a system we need to understand the basic needs that drive the individual members and then how these needs shape the group as it evolves. For me it’s understanding with open compassion, the flow of our inner movements and sensations that can help us navigate relationships, and group dynamics. I’d agree with your intuition: groups do tend to drift toward centralization, but this is not because something is wrong, it’s just a very efficient way to organise complexity and keep the group together and functioning. Problems arise if the energy flow of attention directed towards the leader is not returned to the group in a way that empowers the members and the group as a whole. In general this will happen in the early stages of group formation and slowly drift to unconscious capture of the energy by the leader because of the leader's internal unconscious need to optimize his own position . The challenge is that what should be a continuous flow of attention from members to leader, from leader to members can become a one way street only flowing to the leader. I fully agree that this can be partially mitigated through encouraging contribution, making space for disagreement on purpose, or rotating who holds the center of attention so it doesn’t settle in one place But the key for me is that the group must put into place systems that assure that any authority that a leader has must empower the members and not the leader himself. This requires awareness and accepted conscious exploration of the underlying group dynamics by the core members of the group. So for me understanding the pattern is the first key to navigating the terrain.
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Thanks for this podcast. I have followed a similar path in my life and seen many 10's of spiritual groups rise and fall. They all seem to follow that same pattern and for me this suggests that there exists an underlying unconscious dynamic that drives them all in the same direction. To start I think that peoples true motivation to start and join groups are varied and often mixed and nearly always unconscious. If one wants to start a conscious community one has to start by becoming conscious of and understanding what these dynamics are, how they are structured and see how they are playing out in the group. I have learned a lot from applying complex adaptive systems theory to group and social dynamics and have lately been using AI as a sounding board to explore and structure my thoughts around some of these dynamics. It would take far too long to detail all of this here but I attach a document that might be of interest.
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PS : Don't hesitate to ask if anyone wants more explanations on the paper I posted
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I'm interested in spirituality, consciousness, psychology and society. In fact all things that make the world go round.

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