@Thomas James … if your biggest concern is “life long trt” what do you think enclomiphene and HCG is going to do? It will only increase it temporarily for it to only go back in the gutter again. You might get a modest return on bloodwork, so don’t expect to light the world on fire. At least “lifelong TRT” for the most part keeps your hormones in check and stable for your entire lifetime. I mean, the peptides are great, but those peptides that you are using don’t and won’t increase natural testosterone (other than enclomiphene and HCG temporarily), their mechanism is totally different and it’s not gonna change how your testicular function pushes out more natural test. If you’re worried about the whole natty status, that mythos mentality really needs to change. It’s antiquated, media driven, and silly politicians trying to run the show all while heroically negating science.

@Aaron Reed … thanks for the negative affirmation man…

@Rob Coleman…Much thanks brotha!

@Aaron Reed … he drowned, so what was your hunch?

@T G …yes, also consider adding enclomiphene once in the morning or evening, just to keep LH and FSH levels stable and relatively normal. At least that’s what I would do.

@Drew Griffin did you take any supporting supplementation with it like Tudca, Milk Thistle, and astragalus? Or did you take it alone? What was your dose? Supporting supplementation is critical. Did you know what your kidney values were before your round of S23?

I think BPC 157 works the best when it’s combined with TB 500, Cartilax, and oral Sigumir. And if you wish to add KPV (if you have a lot of inflammation) that is definitely something to add. To me, I think this is the ultimate protocol. But even BPC 157 alone is absolutely unbelievable. The empirical evidence speaks for itself. It’s also worth noting that growth hormone (be it a secretagogue or HGH itself) adds another protective barrier and healing mechanism to the mix