@Travis Sago In your experience, how often is consistently trying to sell or upsell people the wrong decision purely becuase of the person you are trying to sell, where they're at in their personal development and their mindset? One of the big questions i've been asking myself is yes you can write the best and most convincing copy in the world but if someone is not ready to buy not because they dont have pain and problems that you can perfectly describe, but because they personally dont have the belief that they can solve their problems or their problems can be solved? I'm not saying thats always an excuse or a reason to not make sure our offer and copy and systems are tested and crafted well and proven, but wheres the line between constantly trying to sell and upsell to someone and putting the offer infront of them, qualifying them as much as you can, answering their questions and educating them then being okay that no matter what you do, show or say to them, they themselves are not ready to buy because of their own beliefs and the stage of personal development they are at in life?