@Evgeny Bardyuzha i like the creativity of writing / arranging without having to think about any technical details. i can generally hear an arrangement in my head straight away and i just get it down asap then go back through it and refine until i reach a point where i think its ready for mixing. then i'll leave it days sometimes weeks and come back to it with fresh ears, make any obvious changes, clean up any sounds & refine things, then start the mixing process. People might not agree but i dont see mixing generally as creative, its technical to me and honestly i find it tedious & very difficult alot of the time so i dont want it to interfere with the part i do enjoy - the actual making of music. I will say though as Owen has been drilling into us the upstream philosophy my initial arrangements sound designs & selections have been getting much better thus making the mixing process far more streamlined, easier & enjoyable. Yes i'm happy with it & i dont think atm i will try the other method, the thought of having say a 16 bar loop and mixing it then building outwards from that doesnt appeal to me when there is nothing else there yet.