@Jason Hurst Hi Jason, first off really appreciate your input, understand its hard from videos and not in person but your advice means a lot! The oval rings are new im trying to help, maybe had them 2-3 weeks it has seemed to help a little and pedalling/cadence feels better but no major improvements on pain/pulling after a few hrs, i think the rotor rings can be adjusted to change push phase but not entirely sure how will look into it. The point about the saddle is interesting so i used to have the saddle more forward but been reading into long femurs and having saddle more rearward can help but its maybe a touch too far i guess, the saddle is also fairly new pro stealth saddle so no indentations ect and a flatter profile based on advice. my sit bones measure at 130mm so its a tad wider profile to help but still a 140mm saddle i believe. Appreciate your observation saying im fairly stable thats reassuring but also just want to know route cause of right leg pain but im getting there and people like you help massively. I will try note which muscle groups i feel more when riding but im confident in saying on the right my hamstring must get used as compensation for something as after few hours is where the pain can kick in or less on turbo My cleats are an interesting one so my right foot is a tad longer but my 1st metatarsal sits 1cm rearward in comparison to left foot. my 5th metatarsals are same position on both feet from heel. So ive tried left cleat rear for a while and that didnt help but now oddly my right cleat rear slightly has seemed to help but as you said its not clear as in theory the left one should be further back due to leg length unless it was measured wrong as not a scanned measurement. Interesting about pelvic rotation i hadnt noticed and even on bike fits not pointed out hence my current situation, i will try be conscious of that and rotate pelvis forward! is there any other ways to force into forward pelvic rotation or just has to be practiced?

@Jason Hurst Hi Jason apologies- yes been on a bit of a journey trying to solve this, and the bike fits have made me lose a bit of confidence in parting with my money for another one I guess :/ Ah ok brilliant, I tried consciously doing this on ride yesterday after you mentioned and did start to feel right glute engage a lot more and after doing some extensive activation on right side before hand. I’ve also been doing some off the bike work for a while but starting to understand a bit more I wasn’t quite doing properly and now found a few methods to help make sure I am. So with my single leg RDL I now place a foam roller between wall and knee to press into to stabilise but also get more glute activation. I do a good amount of banded work too but will try the exercises you mentioned much appreciated for that!! Yeah appreciate a proper assessment would make this a lot easier so something I will have to consider!! Ok interesting about the saddle I watched quite a few videos that recommend the stealth pro so that’s curious but will look at the Turnix, do you think a wider saddle would be more beneficial for me with 130mm measured sit bones. I know a few people just say a narrow one tends to be better? But also support is needed. I’m obviously on the skinny side so waist isn’t big 28” no more. One other question I had if you have the time was stance width for a smaller guy would widening stance help? Anyway - Thanks so much appreciate you can only say so much remotely but the fact you took time to comment is super appreciate!!

@Eddie Monnier Hi Eddie - Awesome thanks for your input. I did think about right leg having a length difference but hard to prove without a professional and whether it’s caused by something on bike ect or a physical difference.. I did try mark my cleats up but i did fracture my right ankle few years back and feels a lot more stable with the rearward cleats. Could maybe try lowering saddle but always find it feels like overloads quads a bit. Again thanks for your comment 🙌

@Jason Hurst hi Jason. Thanks so much for taking the time and your advice much appreciated. I will go away and try leg length test but over last few rides I’ve tried 2mm shim and my pedal balance is much closer to 50/50 and overall feelings are better I’m also suspect of varus support and was able to try forefoot wedges and that did help tracking too. My issue with heel wedges is I got some custom insoles (sidas) fitted with high arches I was told I think I recall 25mm slightly higher in right foot but I think right foot is also half size larger. and the heel on insole is like bowed not flat where adding a wedge sits flush with sole if that makes sense. But I did fracture that right ankle also so am aware that may need stability. I will also try get someone to stand behind me and do those tests that’s super helpful and report back here! To the best of my eyes the saddle is pointing straight, it’s pretty much brand new so not old or worn out. Again thanks so much for your input some great things to go and try for me there :)

@Daniel Ward Love it - thanks for the comment Daniel. Much appreciated! Glad you havent experienced seat post issue may i ask your height and what frame size you went for?

@Daniel Ward thanks!