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Why cleanser formulas use more than one surfactant (and what each one is doing)
When you look at a cleanser formula and notice three or four different surfactants listed, do you wonder whether that's just "filling", or whether each one genuinely serves a purpose? In an ideal world, each is doing something different, and the combination makes the system work. The surfactant carrying the most weight in a formula is usually called the primary surfactant. Its job is the main cleaning function: removing oil, sebum, and debris from skin. It's typically the one with the highest percentage and is chosen for its cleaning efficiency and lather characteristics (this also means it tends to be anionic) . SCI (sodium cocoyl isethionate) and sodium lauryl sulfoacetate are common primary surfactants in rinse-off bar formats. The secondary surfactants come in to address things the primary does well at but not perfectly. Many effective primary surfactants can be slightly stripping on their own, so an amphoteric like cocamidopropyl betaine is added not necessarily for cleansing power, but to soften the overall action, improve skin feel, stabilise the foam and often to help thicken the formula. Some secondaries also boost the lather volume or quality, making the formula feel more luxurious without affecting the actual cleaning performance. There's also a third function that often gets overlooked: conditioning and mildness. Surfactants like coco-glucoside or even Lamesoft PO65 (refatting) can add a mild conditioning effect to the rinse, leaving skin feeling less tight. Non-ionics are gentler, so they pair very well with stronger anionics. The real skill in building a surfactant system is knowing what each ingredient contributes and in what ratio. A cleanser that's 100% primary surfactant will be harsher than it needs to be. A cleanser that's mostly secondary surfactants won't clean well enough. So the point I am trying to make is: find the right balance. Try this: Look at the INCI list of a commercial cleanser you like. See if you can identify which surfactant is likely the primary and which are secondaries. What does the combination tell you about what the formulator was going for?
Why cleanser formulas use more than one surfactant (and what each one is doing)
1 like • 17d
Nice quick lesson Timi, thank you! This is my favourite shampoo, as I see the anionic surfactant is the sodium coco sulfate. I ll look it up. Is it considered to be not very “aggressive “ ? I see the betaine , the extracts, the oils, the guar.. the percentages are unknown. I really like that shampoo 😀
0 likes • 15d
It seems a lot, the list of the oils is large , but either the percentages are in fact very low, or an ingredient synergy is taking place (there are 3 or 4 essential oils that I find them in INCI as leaf oils such as rosmarinus, melaleuka, orange peel oil and lavandula oil). So I think that this compination removes the oily feeling from the nourishing oils and I say that because my hair is "straw" straight , quite thin, normal to oily, henna dyed and this shampoo is light and fresh, not heavy at all, and makes my hair stronger with better volume, not oily at all. LOL I sound like a commercial spot😄
Quick Lesson: The three types of instability in cosmetic formulations
Most formulators learn to watch for the obvious signs of a failed formula: separation, off-smell, and visible contamination. These are all signs of instability, but they're signs of one specific type. There are three types of cosmetic instability, each requiring a different testing approach. 🧪Physical instability is the most visible. It covers changes to the product's appearance, texture, and structure: phase separation in emulsions, graininess in butters, colour and texture changes. This is what most people think of when they think about stability testing, and it's the easiest to assess by observation. 🧪Chemical instability is largely invisible. It covers changes to the formula's chemistry over time: pH drift, oxidation of fatty acids or actives, degradation of preservatives or active ingredients, breakdown of specific compounds under heat or light. A formula can look completely unchanged while its pH has drifted far enough to compromise the preservation system. A vitamin C serum can appear clear and unchanged while the active ingredient is oxidising. 🧪Microbial instability is the most consequential and the hardest to see. It covers the failure of the preservation system, leading to microbial growth. A product can maintain perfect physical appearance while supporting active growth in the water phase. Microbial stability cannot be confirmed without challenge testing by a microbiological laboratory, so this cannot be done at home. The important point: these three types can fail independently, even though they are often connected. Good physical stability tells you nothing about chemical or microbial stability. A complete assessment needs to address all three. For those of you making products for personal use, the minimum to build toward is monitoring pH over time alongside your visual checks. For anyone selling, challenge testing is required for the safety assessment process in the EU and the UK. Try this: next time you assess a formula you've been testing, think about which type of stability you're actually evaluating. Is it physical only? Are you measuring pH? What are you doing about microbial stability? 🌼
Quick Lesson: The three types of instability in cosmetic formulations
1 like • Apr 24
@Timea Racz It is a passion/love that I have with herbs for decates, being in nature, collecting and processing them , making very small batches (30 ml-100ml) of glycerol-alcohol extractions. As I'm not a seller yet, I use them with quriosity as an extra addition in my formulations sometimes, more like an experiment. Three friends of mine, make the in vivo testers😄with great joy. I usually don't record the proccedures as I should, (lack of time mostly and lack of proper organization of the workplace), but as all this matures, I decided to change it for start and go by the book. I understand that one person alone couldn' t possibly work in all these areas that you accurately mentioned, if someone wants to have bussiness, I know exactly what you mean, it is impossible. I intent to keep the extaction hobby for me🌼 and separate it from the future business section.
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@Timea Racz The teacher has published some very interesting books, in which he developed his methodes and formulas , in some sections of the books. The emulsifier was different, I used Olivem 1000 instead. It' s a good idea to ask him, lol , I didn't think of it, the mystery will be solved easily
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I can't get into the webinar , inactive link for me too
1 like • Apr 20
@Cindy Curtis I sent a message to formulator hub and received a zoom link for the webinar. Maybe there’ll be a recorded video of the zoom meeting.
Thank you!
Thank you Timi for sharing these interesting information in the webinar!🤗
Sorry about the delay
Good morning gang, i hope you are an having an amazing weekend!. I need to skip this week's Abbey Yung episode, my apologies. I have a health condition that awaits surgery and the past couple of weeks I have had so many flare ups, I am exhausted. I will resume in a few days and will catch up as much as I can. In the meantime, do feel free to post and ask etc. I have my phone with me.
1 like • Mar 8
Good luck with your surgery and wishing you a speedy recovery.
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