@Donald Duck Hi Tom, in my experience, most clients want to become effective at what they do. They rarely go towards the Fourth Way. However, a fair number of them do question themselves for example, Who am I? Where am I going and Why? Etc. I believe some transformation does happen, occasionally some clients becoming interested in doing some work at a deeper level beyond personality. For example, I had a client who changed the direction of her life and become an artist. I’m still learning and exploring things beyond duality. It’s a long process.