@Beth Egmon Love this, Beth, and the wet babies line made me laugh. Although I’d argue even they don’t like the change, they like being dry! That’s the bit I’d add to your payoff question. When someone keeps doing something that isn’t getting them what they want, it’s usually still getting them something: the relief of not starting, avoiding a fight at bedtime, a quieter classroom for the next five minutes. That short-term payoff tends to beat the long-term one every time. So rather than asking people to want the change more, we look for what the current pattern is buying them and rearrange the environment so the better option pays off sooner. Teachers and parents are brilliant at this once they see it. Really glad you’ll be there, your perspective will add a lot to the session.