I am currently doing this protocol, about to enter week 4 and have been running NAD+ with it (2 x week). At this stage my suggested protocol looked like this: ss31 4mg x 4-8 weeks (may do 6 as it gets really expensive) NAD 25mg x 4-8 weeks (simultaneously with ss31 & Motsc, may stop when start Mots) reta 30 x 1 per week (simultaneously with ss31 & nad, discontinue when commence mots) Mots 5mg x 6-12, start at week 6 and discontinue ss, not sure if I will continue with nad yet? Effect and symptoms? slight sting with ss and nad, occasional welt at inject site (not all the time) goes away pretty quickly. Initially felt a bit nausea (first time I took nad), not anymore. Most days energy feels great, generally more tired in evening, likely body saying it needs recovery and rest. Even with Reta, pretty hungry all the time. Other than that, feel pretty darn good. Note: When I first start something new (which has been the case with this protocol), I start with 1/3 dose first then titrate to 1/2 dose, if I feel that is sufficient I won't titrate further. I tend to stay under dose more than at dose.