Thats good feedback !

@Devin Trent hey man, my granddaughter has a grad ceremony that morning at 11est I can do 900 that morning ?

@Amy Ambrozich ok, and an order of business

It funny with all the kids we have had we have yet to have major problems with either. We incorporate strong routines that are not moved easlier and they are enforced and the kids have fell in line. We also keep them in whatever sports they chose so that (being tired in the evening) kept the bedtime schedule on track. The worst we had was someone missing the alarm or snooze too many times but we would check in 5 mins after time to get up and so it was not ever a big issue. Routines with out kids have cut out 75 % of the fights or argues because they knew what was expected and they (most kids) try to be amicable. Kids will do almost anything to be accepted.....gangs, drugs, sex, etc so if they are love and accepted first in the home it makes many others things undesirable.