Both of these Picasso colors are listed as "matte", but photos don't carry that chalk-like matte I'm used to seeing. I have some Picasso delica 11/0 listed as matte, but the matte seems to be from the grey/green mottling, while the base color has a sheen to it. If you have either of these in an 8/0 round, would you please share how shiny or flat these appear in the larger rounds? Thank you so much for looking at your beads if you have them