@Stacey Avraham , thank you for pulling that over from the Stiff Starter Squad, and thanks to Candi for laying it out. Solid rundown, and most of it is exactly how I'd put it. The longer peak window, the heat resilience, the easier fridge life, all true. A stiff starter is a forgiving animal. @Kim Cochran Kim, let me add the one piece that trips people up. That "less sour, more yeast forward" part is real, but it comes from how you feed it, not just the low hydration. Fed on a schedule and used young, right near its peak, a stiff starter gives you that mild, almost sweet character. That's why it's the workhorse for brioche, panettone, cinnamon rolls. Let the same starter sit too long between feeds, though, and the density works against you. It starts banking acetic acid, the sharp vinegary kind of tang. So if mild is what you're after, the secret is rhythm. Feed it, watch it peak, use it close to the top. Candi's build is a good place to start. 3g starter, 15g water, 30g flour. That 1:5:10 puts you right at 50% hydration, and at 73 degrees you're looking at 10 to 14 hours to peak on a once a day feeding. Start there and let it tell you what it likes. Manna is a beautiful name for a starter, by the way. I saw you had a second question in there too. Let me come back for that one.